OFFICIAL GAME THREAD: Win the Game, Make the Playoffs (vs. TEXANS, 1/06)

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Again, and I’ve pointed this out to you MULTIPLE times, there was NO WAY the Colts were going to be able to get into position to draft Stroud.

The Bears weren’t interested in Pittman, so they traded with Chicago.

There was no way in hell the Texans were ever gonna trade with the Colts.

So Stroud was NEVER going to be a Colt.

You should stop implying that the Colts had the option to get him.

They didn’t.

Dam knows this. In fact he's told us god knows how many times that the Bears wanted Leonard and JT along w/ the #4 pick for the #1 pick. I think there was another injured, high priced Colts player that the Bears wanted as well, but I can't think of who that was.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Again, and I’ve pointed this out to you MULTIPLE times, there was NO WAY the Colts were going to be able to get into position to draft Stroud.

The Bears weren’t interested in Pittman, so they traded with Chicago.

There was no way in hell the Texans were ever gonna trade with the Colts.

So Stroud was NEVER going to be a Colt.

You should stop implying that the Colts had the option to get him.

They didn’t.

What I heard is the Colts didn't want to trade Pittman which is why they didn't end up moving up. Either way, the Colts could have put a better offer together than the Panthers did if they wanted to get to 1.

Originally Posted by Racehorse

The problem is that you DO harp on it. Just drop it, and people will stop giving you shit for harping on it.

It's an incredibly frustrating situation. It's easy to say what should be done with hindsight, I said what needed to be done with foresight. Hopefully Richardson comes out next year and lights the world on fire. That would make me forget about it.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Dam knows this. In fact he's told us god knows how many times that the Bears wanted Leonard and JT along w/ the #4 pick for the #1 pick. I think there was another injured, high priced Colts player that the Bears wanted as well, but I can't think of who that was.

Ha, that was my hypothetical conjured up scenario, it wasn't any rumor of anything that was discussed. I just hypothesized that Eberflus would be interested in those players, and it would've allowed the Colts to make some shrewder investments going forward. I wanted to trade up to 1 without giving up the 2024 1st rounder. Giving up two former All-Pros might have made it possible.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

What I heard is the Colts didn't want to trade Pittman which is why they didn't end up moving up. Either way, the Colts could have put a better offer together than the Panthers did if they wanted to get to 1.



It's an incredibly frustrating situation. It's easy to say what should be done with hindsight, I said what needed to be done with foresight. Hopefully Richardson comes out next year and lights the world on fire. That would make me forget about it.

What I heard is that the Bears wanted a number 1 receiver to pair with Fields and they preferred Moore because they felt he was a better player than Pittman and he was also signed long term.

If that is true, then the Colts had no shot at trading to 1.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

What I heard is the Colts didn't want to trade Pittman which is why they didn't end up moving up. Either way, the Colts could have put a better offer together than the Panthers did if they wanted to get to 1.



It's an incredibly frustrating situation. It's easy to say what should be done with hindsight, I said what needed to be done with foresight. Hopefully Richardson comes out next year and lights the world on fire. That would make me forget about it.

There you go harping again

[Chromeburn]

We have Carolina’s owner Bidwell to thank for Stroud ending up in the division. If he had listened to Reich he would be in Carolina. I wonder who the Texans would have drafted if Stroud was off the board though.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

We have Carolina’s owner Bidwell to thank for Stroud ending up in the division. If he had listened to Reich he would be in Carolina. I wonder who the Texans would have drafted if Stroud was off the board though.

I think you mean Tepper not Bidwell.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

What I heard is that the Bears wanted a number 1 receiver to pair with Fields and they preferred Moore because they felt he was a better player than Pittman and he was also signed long term.

If that is true, then the Colts had no shot at trading to 1.

The #4 pick was more valuable than #9 in part because it could've been flipped again to another QB needy team to get into that same range. In this hypothetical scenario, after trading with the Colts to move to 4, if the Bears liked DJ Moore so much, they could've flipped from 4 to 9 and got him. You can say it was impossible, if they wanted it badly enough, they'd have found a way to make it happen.

Originally Posted by Racehorse

There you go harping again

That's not "harping", that's frustration. Ballard talked the talk then did not walk the walk. Could've won the division for the first time since 2014, instead the Colts have an injured QB and a lot of "what if"s.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

We have Carolina’s owner Bidwell to thank for Stroud ending up in the division. If he had listened to Reich he would be in Carolina. I wonder who the Texans would have drafted if Stroud was off the board though.

Probably Young, which would've been incredible for the Colts.

[kitekrazy]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

That's what a franchise QB does.

I think they will be rare in the modern NFL.