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Old 07-29-2023, 03:16 PM
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You have not paid attention to history. As much as I don't like Trump, he was exposing some of the pay to play shit that goes on everyday in Washington so he was marked. He just wasn't sharp enough to hide his own pay for play schemes.



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In terms of serious felonies committed by the person sitting in the Oval Office, Donald Trump is similar to Richard Nixon, which puts the 2 of them in very rare company regarding the criminality of a US President.

That said, Trump and Nixon are/were essentially no better and no worse than any other President before them or since ...... all of the decisions that each and every United States President has made throughout history are the product of a much larger structure which promotes capitalism, demonizes socialism, and is completely in bed with THE TRUE OWNERS of this country ...... the multi-billionaires, the big businesses, the oil companies, etc.

As the late, great George Carlin pointed out, the politicians are there just to give you the illusion that you have some control over what happens when you pull a lever at the voting booth every 4 years ...... you don't have ANY control over any of the important decisions regarding what goes down in our society, as it matters not one bit whether a liberal Democrat is sitting in the Oval Office or a conservative Republican. You may as well be pulling your own dick as pulling that voting lever every 4 years, because the meaning of the 2 acts are essentially the same.

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Now that has value worth reading. Being somewhat of a space nerd I waited anxiously until the first pics came back from Webb. Post more of this and less politics.
I will post what ever I think is relevant and you are not required to read them. I will quote Vonnegut, “you can take a flying fuck at a rolling donut”, if you dont like it.
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Old 07-30-2023, 10:42 PM
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I will post what ever I think is relevant and you are not required to read them. I will quote Vonnegut, “you can take a flying fuck at a rolling donut”, if you dont like it.
Well that escalated quickly. You sure you want to go there? I don't think you're equipped for this.
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Default Trump has been charged with four federal counts, including 'conspiracy to defraud' th

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ouse-rcna96825

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A conspiracy to defraud the United States "by using dishonesty, fraud and deceit to obstruct the nation’s process of collecting, counting, and certifying the results of the presidential election," according to the special counsel's office.

A conspiracy to impede the Jan. 6 congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified.

A conspiracy against the right to vote and to have that vote counted.

Obstruction of, and attempt to obstruct and impede, the certification of the electoral vote.
Only Trump is named, the others have a chance to tell the truth and not spend their golden years in a Federal Correction facility.

6 people not named, giving them time to flip and tell the truth
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Estate of Henrietta Lacks reaches settlement with biotech company for nonconsensual use of her cells in medical research

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The family of Henrietta Lacks, a Black woman whose cells have been used for scientific research for decades, reached a settlement Tuesday with the biotech company Thermo Fisher Scientific, the family’s attorneys said.

Lacks’ family filed a federal lawsuit in 2021 against the company, arguing it is knowingly profiting from Lacks’ tissue sample and cell line.

In 1951, Lacks was diagnosed with cervical cancer and had tissue taken from her cervix without her consent during a procedure at The Johns Hopkins Hospital. Lacks died later that year from the cancer at the age of 31.

Artist Bryan Cobbs, left, and sculptor Larry Bechtel stand in front of a preliminary sketch for the Henrietta Lacks statue in Roanoke, Virginia.
Henrietta Lacks statue will replace Robert E. Lee monument in Roanoke, Virginia
The sample was later used to create a human cell line that can reproduce itself outside of the body, which is now known as HeLa cells.

The cells have been used to develop the polio vaccine, in vitro fertilization, gene mapping, advancements in cancer treatment, AIDS research, cloning and stem cell studies, CNN previously reported.

The family and the company reached a “confidential settlement” outside the court, the Lacks’ attorneys told CNN.

At a news conference Tuesday, family members and their attorneys said the settlement will help them in their efforts to keep Lacks’ legacy alive.

“On her 103rd birthday, we got justice,” said Alfred Lacks-Carter, Jr., Lacks’ grandson.

Attorney Ben Crump, second from left, walks with Ron Lacks, left, Alfred Lacks Carter, third from left, both grandsons of Henrietta Lacks, and other descendants of Lacks, whose cells have been used in medical research without her permission, outside the federal courthouse in Baltimore, Monday, Oct. 4, 2021. They announced during a news conference that Lacks' estate is filing a lawsuit against Thermo Fisher Scientific for using Lacks' cells, known as HeLa cells.
Estate of Henrietta Lacks sues biotechnical company for nonconsensual use of her cells
Ben Crump, one of the attorneys representing the family, said he hopes the settlement will help to further educate others about Lacks’ legacy.

“This Black woman gave so much to the world, it’s good to give her a present back on her birthday,” Crump said.

Thermo Fisher told CNN in a statement it was “pleased” a settlement was achieved outside of court and declined to provide further comment on the case.

CNN has reached out to The Johns Hopkins Hospital for comment on the settlement. The Baltimore hospital was not named in the lawsuit but has previously said Lacks’ tissue sample would not have been taken without her consent for use in scientific research today.
Its a big deal, your body is your property and parts cannot be used without your consent and have profit made without compensation. While what was done with her cells has had an enormous impact on the health care around the world, it was done without consent of the family.

This is just another example of big business treating minorities poorly because they can.
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Default Mike Pence took notes

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Then-Vice President Mike Pence took “contemporaneous notes” of his meetings with Donald Trump leading up to Jan. 6, according to a new federal grand jury indictment lodged against the former president on Tuesday which reveals Trump's continual efforts to pressure Pence into rejecting electoral votes.

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Citing the notes as evidence underpinning its case, the 45-page indictment reveals Pence took the notes after conversations with his boss in the weeks leading up to the Capitol riots, as Trump attempted to enlist him for help.

“As the January 6 congressional certification proceeding approached and other efforts to impair, obstruct and defeat the federal junction failed, the Defendant sought to enlist the Vice President to use his ceremonial role at the certification to fraudulently alter the election results,” the indictment says.

It alleges Trump and one of his co-conspirators “knowingly made false claims of election fraud” in a meeting on Jan. 4, 2021.

In that meeting, Trump asked Pence to reject or challenge legitimate electors for Democrat Joe Biden from seven states, rather than count them. The indictment claims Trump deliberately excluded his White House counsel from the meeting because lawyers had already pushed back on the idea.

“Bottom line ― won every state by 100,000s of votes,” Trump said at the time, according to Pence.

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In another, according to the notes, Trump also falsely told Pence on Dec. 29, 2020, that the Department of Justice was “finding major infractions.”

Then, on Jan. 1, the President told Pence he was “too honest” in a phone call berating the Vice President for opposing a lawsuit that would reject Biden’s presidency. Pence had told Trump that there was no constitutional basis for such authority and that it was improper; among just a number of pushbacks by Pence at the time.

In a statement Tuesday night, Pence said “today’s indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be the President of the United States.”

Pence added he will “have more to say” after reviewing the indictment, echoing special counsel Jack Smith’s earlier comments Tuesday night that Trump is “entitled to the presumption of innocence.”


CBS News’ Robert Costa described Pence on the air as a “central, crucial key witness in this investigation,” adding “he could end up being the most important witness in this case.”

“He can speak to possible criminal intent. By Pence detailing what Trump said... Pence is someone who was weaponized at the end of the presidency for Trump, and to have him cooperating with the investigation gives the special counsel an eyewitness account who is not a lawyer or some Trump functionary.”

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Default Opinion: Trump has dug himself into the deepest possible hole

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/02/opini...rdt/index.html

IF you bother to read this, is lays out the present situation and how deep the hole is for donnie
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everyone knows trump is guilty


we watched it all on live tv. some people just don't care.
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Default Oregon leaps into the 21st century

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Leaving only New Jersey in the past.
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When I saw Oregon in the title - I thought the article was going to be about Oregon joining the Big Ten Conference.
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