Prisco is not sold on us at all

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Something else to consider and sort of lost in the toilet bowl of last year. I can't recall all the stats but I do recall articles talking about how the Colts of last year set a record for leads lost in the second half, and even more pronounced, 4th quarter leads, that were lost in just insane decisions and a lack of horses to finish the deal.

To me that says that despite Pags being a terrible coach, despite playing with a guy thrown to the wolves at QB, despite a completely ridiculous O-line shuffle, despite an absurdly pathetic pass rush and a non-existent LB corps, this team actually did show some fight last year.

We have Luck back, we unquestionably have a better Oline, and presumably we have a game breaker at RB this year that we have not had. Put a real coach on top of that; not saying playoffs but also not saying dumpster fire either. I think we are probably looking at a 50/50 year, maybe 9-7 and if Luck is flirting with who he was pre-injury late in the year I could see a push to 10-6.

We have a game breaker at RB? I think RB is a complete unknown at this point. There is some talent there, but we don't know how that will pan out at the NFL level.

We also lost some good d-linemen. Hopefully we don't regress there.

I hope we are all surprised at how good this team ends up being, but it's just a ton of unknowns at this point.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

We have a game breaker at RB? I think RB is a complete unknown at this point. There is some talent there, but we don't know how that will pan out at the NFL level.

We also lost some good d-linemen. Hopefully we don't regress there.

I hope we are all surprised at how good this team ends up being, but it's just a ton of unknowns at this point.

Good post Jesus

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

We have a game breaker at RB? I think RB is a complete unknown at this point. There is some talent there, but we don't know how that will pan out at the NFL level.

We also lost some good d-linemen. Hopefully we don't regress there.

I hope we are all surprised at how good this team ends up being, but it's just a ton of unknowns at this point.

Jesus Christ, you make a lot of sense.








Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Does that make me a troll?

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Does that make me a troll?

Perhaps if you live under a bridge ?

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

We have a game breaker at RB? I think RB is a complete unknown at this point. There is some talent there, but we don't know how that will pan out at the NFL level.

We also lost some good d-linemen. Hopefully we don't regress there.

I hope we are all surprised at how good this team ends up being, but it's just a ton of unknowns at this point.

Sure there is a lot of unknown at the RB spot but one thing we also know is we have one of the fastest players in the NFL at that spot now in Hines which is not something we have been able to say, shit I don't know if we've been able to say that ever and unbelievably we might actually have a line capable of getting him and Mack space to operate. Love Frank Gore, dude was a great player and a cornerstone in a period of dread, but he didn't pose a threat that had to be adjusted for.

Yeah Dline especially interior is a concern and I don't see a giant LB upgrade to cover for it either...

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Sure there is a lot of unknown at the RB spot but one thing we also know is we have one of the fastest players in the NFL at that spot now in Hines which is not something we have been able to say, shit I don't know if we've been able to say that ever and unbelievably we might actually have a line capable of getting him and Mack space to operate. Love Frank Gore, dude was a great player and a cornerstone in a period of dread, but he didn't pose a threat that had to be adjusted for.

Yeah Dline especially interior is a concern and I don't see a giant LB upgrade to cover for it either...

We had one of the fastest players in Phillip Dorsett previously as well.

The line upgrade should be huge for these young RB's. I hope the o-line can get healthy and stay healthy. They need the time together. I can't wait to see Nelson leaving a path of destruction in his wake.

[Luck4Reich]

I agree we have a lot of unknowns but also have to consider we don't know a lot about many of the players under the previous coaching staff. We know that many players were probably not being used according to their skill sets. I'm pretty confident that the previous staff not only did not know how to evaluate the talent they sure as hell didn't use half the players the right way.

I'm much more confident in the new coaching staff. Hopeful that not only can they do more with less since we may have less. Also believe that they are better at evaluation of the players and will use all of them according to their strengths. For the top talent on the team this also makes a world of difference from previous season.

So even if the record shows that we were not a very good team by seasons end. I truly believe what we see from a competitive aspect we will all be pleased and excited for the future of our team.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

We had one of the fastest players in Phillip Dorsett previously as well.

The line upgrade should be huge for these young RB's. I hope the o-line can get healthy and stay healthy. They need the time together. I can't wait to see Nelson leaving a path of destruction in his wake.

Big difference between a fast RB and a fast WR. A fast WR who can't catch or get separation is useless, except for trading for a backup QB. All a fast RB needs to be able to do is hold onto the ball and have good vision.

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Big difference between a fast RB and a fast WR. A fast WR who can't catch or get separation is useless, except for trading for a backup QB. All a fast RB needs to be able to do is hold onto the ball and have good vision.

If that's all a fast RB needed, then so many of them wouldn't fail. There are a lot of fast RB's that don't make it. Awareness, blitz pickups, learning the playbook, balance, power, all of that is needed with that speed. The young RB's on this team may have what it takes, but we don't know that yet, so we can't assume it until they perform on game day.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

If that's all a fast RB needed, then so many of them wouldn't fail. There are a lot of fast RB's that don't make it. Awareness, blitz pickups, learning the playbook, balance, power, all of that is needed with that speed. The young RB's on this team may have what it takes, but we don't know that yet, so we can't assume it until they perform on game day.

Yeah, I oversimplified it a bit, but RB is not the same as WR when it comes to speed. Lack of top flight speed does not affect WRs, if they can make separation and catches. All they need is NFL average speed to find success. You can scheme for a speedy RB.