Jaff's stupid shit

[JAFF]

So the public knows what has happened

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023...indictment-dg/

Those are the government charges

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Trump can't win': Koch network releases ads targeting ex-president

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...eb7e38d9&ei=18

Wow, there is a huge shot to bad orange mans ego

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“That is not a defense”: Ex-Mueller prosecutor says Trump’s post-arrest speech was a “confession”

https://www.salon.com/2023/06/14/tha...-a-confession/

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday spoke to supporters at his Bedminster, N.J. golf club hours after he was fingerprinted, booked and pleaded not guilty to 37 federal criminal charges in Miami, declaring that he had "every right to take these documents."

Trump pleaded not guilty to charges that he illegally retrained national security information and sought to obstruct the investigation into the missing records.

"Whatever documents a president decides to take with him, he has the right to do so. It's an absolute right. This is the law," Trump declared in his speech.

That is not the law. While the Presidential Records Act allows Trump to retain "personal" records like family photos, it requires the National Archives to "assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President."

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"There is absolutely no legal authority that supports the idea that a president could assert, for example, that classified records are 'personal.' That would still be true even if such records were declassified," Jason Baron, former director of litigation for the National Archives and Records Administration, told CBS News, adding that Trump "simply is wrong in saying that he had an absolute right to take official documents with him when he left office."


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Trump also claimed that "the president enjoys unconstrained authority to make decisions regarding the disposal of documents."

But the Presidential Records Act says that the National Archives must sign off on any disposal of presidential records.

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Trump during his speech decried his indictment as "the most evil and heinous abuse of power in the history of our country" even though more than a dozen of his former administration officials admit the allegations in the indictment are damning.

"There is not an Attorney General of either party who would not have brought today's charges against the former president," prominent conservative Judge Michael Luttig tweeted on Tuesday. "He has dared, taunted, provoked, and goaded DOJ to prosecute him from the moment it was learned that he had taken these national security documents."

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Trump accused President Joe Biden of having his "top political opponent arrested on fake and fabricated charges of which he and numerous other presidents would be guilty, right in the middle of a presidential election in which he is losing very badly."

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Trump then went on to vow to do the same thing he accused Biden of doing – appointing a prosecutor to investigate his opponent.

"I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family," Trump said.

Former federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann, who served on special counsel Bob Mueller's team, zeroed in on Trump's claim that he had "every right" to take the documents he is charged with violating the Espionage Act over.


"Those statements that you just played are admissible as admissions, regardless of whether Donald Trump takes the stand or not. Those are admissions. So, that is–part of what he said is just a straight-out confession. It's not a defense. It's a confession," Weissmann told MSNBC.

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"He said, 'I could take these,'" Weissmann later added. "When you are charged with the illegal retention, the illegal possession of the documents, it is not a good idea to say, 'Hey, you want to know why I took these? Because I could. That is not a defense to that charge. That is an admission to the charge."

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Poll: Majority Says Trump Should Drop Out of Presidential Race

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...5980d64c&ei=19

A strong majority of 56% of Americans think former President Donald Trump should drop out of the 2024 presidential race because of his second indictment involving his alleged "willful" possession of classified documents, according to a poll released Friday by the Marist institute of Public Opinion.

But Republicans largely say they'll stick with him anyway, if he chooses to stick it out and seek the Oval Office job again, according to the survey.

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The poll was taken after Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith announced 37 charges involving Trump's possession of classified documents and his refusal to hand them over despite requests, a subpoena and a search of his Mar-a-Lago home by federal agents – a historic and unprecedented federal indictment of a former commander in chief.

But the survey found that a partisan thread remains woven through the most recent Trump drama, with a devoted segment of his Republican Party saying the charges won't keep them from backing the current front-runner for the 2024 GOP nomination. Even though an overwhelming majority of the public as a whole thinks Trump did something illegal or at least wrong, Republicans aren't letting it affect their votes.

The poll found that 64% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say they will continue to support Trump if he remains in the race, while 32% of Republicans say they plan to support another GOP candidate in the increasingly crowded primary.

Buttressing Trump's own claims that his legal woes only make him more appealing to his base, the survey found that 76% of Republicans have a favorable opinion of Trump, up from 68% who felt that way in February.

Since the winter, Trump has lost a civil case brought by advice columnist E. Jean Carroll, with a jury finding Trump committed "sexual abuse" of her and defamed her. That jury said Trump should pay Carroll $5 million.

In March, Trump was indicted by a grand jury in New York on charges related to his hush-money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels. And more indictments, including federal charges related to the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the Capitol and a Georgia case related to whether the former president attempted to overturn the 2020 election results in the swing state.

But Trump's mounting legal problems, while solidifying the views of his political critics, aren't deterring Republican voters and may even be helping Trump, who has cast himself as the victim of a political "witch hunt."

On the question of whether Trump should stay in the race, 56% say no and 43% said yes, the Poughkeepsie-based, independent Marist poll found. The group wanting Trump to leave the race includes 87% of Democrats and 58% of independents. But among Republicans, 83% say the twice-impeached and twice-indicted Trump should stay in the fight for the nomination.

And while the overwhelming majority of Democrats, 78%, and half of independents – up from 41% in March – believe Trump broke the law, Republicans sharply disagree. They survey found that half of Republicans think Trump did nothing wrong – up from 45% in a March Marist survey.

"Time will tell if this pattern holds. But for now, Republicans are grounded on where they stand on Trump regardless of these unfolding events." Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute, said in a statement.

Trump continues to lead in national and most statewide primary polls. His GOP opponents have been largely measured in their criticisms of him, and several have said they would pardon the former president if they themselves were elected to the White House – a sign of the power Trump's base has in the party.

Trump and many of his primary opponents are scheduled to speak next week at the Faith & Freedom Coalition conference in Washington.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...01f80d58&ei=44

Donald Trump is bleeding lawyers as quickly as he needs them, with Jim Trusty—once representing the former president in both his criminal documents case and a defamation lawsuit—motioning to end his relationship with Trump altogether on Friday.

Trusty wrote in a motion that he was dropping Trump as a client in his defamation suit against CNN because of “irreconcilable differences” that made it impossible for him to “effectively and properly represent” him.

“The defamation lawsuit against CNN is entering a new phase, as more irrefutable facts are revealed,” a spokesperson for Trump told Politico. “We thank Mr. Trusty for his work on this case and wish him all the best.”

Trump is seeking $475 million in damages from CNN, claiming the network conducted a “campaign of dissuasion in the form of libel and slander.”

CNN has asked the judge for the case to be “dismissed with prejudice.”

The motion to withdraw from Trusty came after he’d already removed himself as counsel to Trump, as did the attorney John Rowley, in the federal documents case brought by special counsel Jack Smith. That criminal case relates to sensitive government documents that Trump allegedly kept after his time in the White House and his alleged obstruction of the federal investigation.

Trump pleaded not guilty to the charges in Florida on Tuesday.

Trump is reportedly still looking to hire more lawyers to beef up his defense, but has been struggling to find someone willing and qualified to take the gig.

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have no idea how the guys here can still love trump after all that has came out. they will say they don't like him but they do

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

have no idea how the guys here can still love trump after all that has came out. they will say they don't like him but they do

I don't think people love Trump. I know I don't.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

I don't think people love Trump. I know I don't.

We have lots of them in rural Indiana. 4 wd rust buckets with trump flags flying

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by JAFF

We have lots of them in rural Indiana. 4 wd rust buckets with trump flags flying

I don't think they like the actual guy, but what he represents to them. He is the first republican candidate who has stood up to the democrats since Reagan. Now, Reagan was loved, and by a lot on both sides of the aisle. trump is a tool for the angry voters from the right wing. Gingrich was close to being the guy, but then he did some stupid stuff and disappeared.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

I don't think they like the actual guy, but what he represents to them. He is the first republican candidate who has stood up to the democrats since Reagan. Now, Reagan was loved, and by a lot on both sides of the aisle. trump is a tool for the angry voters from the right wing. Gingrich was close to being the guy, but then he did some stupid stuff and disappeared.

they love the guy. i know tons of trump fans and they love him. a guy without a single redeeming quality and they love him.

i agree with you that they love that he pretends to be some macho tough guy. that he is fighting the evil democrats and establishment for them. its all fucking bullshit. trump loves himself and himself only. a pure garbage human being.

most of that is because the republican propaganda machine is fucking massive and extremely effective. what fox news and am radio has done to the american people has been a disaster. just constant rage baiting the people consuming it. its probably mostly effective because your average republican is a moron. the vast majority of the republican base is very uneducated. they fall in lock step with whatever message the republican party puts out there. will vote against their best interests and show a disturbing lack of empathy.

trump and his cronies are clearly criminals. were some democrats criminals? yeah. im sure they are. lets get them too.

the problem is trump has no regard for this country. anyone that thinks they weren't trying to overthrow the government by overturning the election is a child with their fingers in their ears. it happened. there was a plan in place and they were trying to execute it. shockingly Pence found the one time in his entire life to do the right thing. more people than just pence but he was a key figure that they needed and he wouldn't go along with it.

trump is a danger to this country and that is why he needs to be made an example of. whatever punishment he gets, if any, won't be enough. no telling how his mishandling of documents cost this country. this isn't a tds rant. its just the facts. which many people will refuse to listen to because they are to insecure to realize they backed the wrong horse.