How good is this defense?

[DrSpaceman]

This defense is good enough to consistently stop bad, mediocre to above average QBs.

Still don't think its good enough to stop Good to great QBs.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

Leonard is one player. He only has so much of an impact.


The colts defense has been largely helped out by playing trash offenses.

One player can sometimes have a very big impact.

The Colts can only play their schedule. Plus some of these "trash offenses" dropped some pretty big numbers on some of the best scoring defenses in the league.

[DrSpaceman]

I don't think the Colts played "trash" offenses this year.

But they played few of the top ones, at least in terms of QBs

I would say most would agree the list of top 10 QBs includes, no particular order, and we will exclude Luck :

1. Brees
2. Rodgers, though GB had an off year
3. Brady, grudgingly admitted
4. Raper-burger
5. Rivers this year was great, most years I would not put him on this list
6. Matt Ryan
7. Mahommes, new to the list this season
8. Brees
9. Russell Wilson
10. Jared Goff to round it out, especially given how good the offense has been

You may agree/disagree on a few, but 8/10 or so I would say most would agree on.

Colts have played exactly one of those 10 so far, and they lost, to brady.

now that was a strike shortened week and without Leonard and Walker too I think at LB, but still, a loss

Haven't faced any of the other 10 so far this year

After that there is a large group of middling to good, or up and coming QBs. Watson, Trubisky, Stafford, Wentz when healthy (and he is not), Cam Newton when healthy (again, not now), Dak Prescott, Eli, Kirk Cousins, some others. They have faced some of those and had success

Out of the top 10 or so for the year, besides Luck, though, did not have to face them this season, except Brady

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Spike

Pro Bowl is shit, but he definitely should have made it. And Rivers and Brady over Luck is total bullshit.

So I found this hilarious in Peter King's projections

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/01/01/nf...mpaign=themmqb

Leonard finishes 7th in DPOY on here. The only rookie on the list.

BUT, he finishes 3rd in DROY voting. How the fuck does that work?

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

So I found this hilarious in Peter King's projections

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/01/01/nf...mpaign=themmqb

Leonard finishes 7th in DPOY on here. The only rookie on the list.

BUT, he finishes 3rd in DROY voting. How the fuck does that work?

Weird mental gymnastics. I sometimes wonder if King really even follows the game or if he justs mines his years of contacts.

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by Butter

Weird mental gymnastics. I sometimes wonder if King really even follows the game or if he justs mines his years of contacts.

That article isn't Peter King's - he left SI and is now at NBC.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ay-peter-king/

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Chaka

That article isn't Peter King's - he left SI and is now at NBC.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ay-peter-king/

Yup, forgot about that. Run by albert Breer now? Still, doesn't make sense though.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

So I found this hilarious in Peter King's projections

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/01/01/nf...mpaign=themmqb

Leonard finishes 7th in DPOY on here. The only rookie on the list.

BUT, he finishes 3rd in DROY voting. How the fuck does that work?

It doesn’t work. It is moronic

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

So I found this hilarious in Peter King's projections

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/01/01/nf...mpaign=themmqb

Leonard finishes 7th in DPOY on here. The only rookie on the list.

BUT, he finishes 3rd in DROY voting. How the fuck does that work?

Multiple people voting with a few that really like Leonard and the rest that are dumb.

[Chromeburn]

Leonard's reaction when he hears 40 tackles are impossible

https://www.instagram.com/p/Brk8s26liU8/