Texans-Colts quick thoughts

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Yes that is basically the gist of it.

That isn’t how I remember it. Could be though

[omahacolt]

1). Luck checked every box today

2). Autry had himself a game early. That was good to see

3). No running game again. Fix this Reich

4). I actually like Luck when he has to go away from Hilton and Doyle

5). Being down 2 tackles against the texicans is what it is. You had to expect that.

6). After the desir pick we had 2nd and 1 on their side. Ended up 4th and 7. Inexcusable

7. Got to watch the game with my brother. That was awesome.

8). Playing against the refs is hard.

9). Loved going for it

10). Zone coverage was a disaster much of the game. Safety play was shit.

11). Good post gbb

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88

3. IMO, Quenton Nelson and Marcus Johnson made the two biggest mistakes to cost the Colts the game. That's whatever for Johnson, who is a WR5 type guy. For Nelson, I remain in the camp that he'll never live up to #6 overall pick impact..

Here are the last ten 6th overall picks:

2008 - Vernon Gholston (LB) - Jets
2009 - Andre Smith (T) - Bengals
2010 - Russell Okung (T) - Seahawks
2011 - Julio Jones (WR) - Falcons
2012 - Morris Claiborne (CB) - Cowboys
2013 - Barkevious Mingo (OLB) - Browns
2014 - Jake Matthews (T) - Falcons
2015 - Leonard Williams (DT) - Jets
2016 - Ronnie Stanley (T) - Ravens
2017 - Jamal Adams (S) - Jets

He probably won't outplay Julio Jones, but I think when all is said and done Nelson will compare well with the above players' careers.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Chaka

Here are the last ten 6th overall picks:

2008 - Vernon Gholston (LB) - Jets
2009 - Andre Smith (T) - Bengals
2010 - Russell Okung (T) - Seahawks
2011 - Julio Jones (WR) - Falcons
2012 - Morris Claiborne (CB) - Cowboys
2013 - Barkevious Mingo (OLB) - Browns
2014 - Jake Matthews (T) - Falcons
2015 - Leonard Williams (DT) - Jets
2016 - Ronnie Stanley (T) - Ravens
2017 - Jamal Adams (S) - Jets

He probably won't outplay Julio Jones, but I think when all is said and done Nelson will compare well with the above players' careers.

okung was drafted in 2010? That is insane to me

[bertjones]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

1). Luck checked every box today

2). Autry had himself a game early. That was good to see

3). No running game again. Fix this Reich

4). I actually like Luck when he has to go away from Hilton and Doyle

5). Being down 2 tackles against the texicans is what it is. You had to expect that.

6). After the desir pick we had 2nd and 1 on their side. Ended up 4th and 7. Inexcusable

7. Got to watch the game with my brother. That was awesome.

8). Playing against the refs is hard.

9). Loved going for it

10). Zone coverage was a disaster much of the game. Safety play was shit.

11). Good post gbb

I'm really tired of this team getting screwed over by officiating crews.
Somebody needs to make a statement and take the fine.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Can you elaborate on Nelson's big mistake?

If you're talking about the holding call...then no, that was a bad call. That was Nelson just stonewalling his man to the ground.

If you're talking about getting beat by Clowney...uh that's going to happen on occasion to even ab all pro guard. They ran a stunt, Nelson got caught a little to far inside and didn't anticipate Clowney's speed.

Nelson, was no more the problem than Luck was.

More like he didn't anticipate Clowney's power bc he tossed him. But wasn't Clowney a number 1 pick, he was picked there for a reason. Not like Some scrub made him look bad. He did leave a double team to pick him up, Clowney had momentum, but I don't think Nelson anticipated his power enough.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

More like he didn't anticipate Clowney's power bc he tossed him. But wasn't Clowney a number 1 pick, he was picked there for a reason. Not like Some scrub made him look bad. He did leave a double team to pick him up, Clowney had momentum, but I don't think Nelson anticipated his power enough.

The way I remember it, was Nelson was off balance to begin with, after he came off of the inside block.

Whether it was power or speed is really irrelevant.

Nelson was picked 6th and has made a huge improvement to the Colts O-Line. Just because it doesn't show in the final outcome doesn't make it so.

No AC and no Haeg, and this OL still played better than anytime in recent memory...before this season.

[Johanvil]

Originally Posted by bertjones

I'm really tired of this team getting screwed over by officiating crews.
Somebody needs to make a statement and take the fine.

Yesterday we had the missed delay call and last week that one.

Mike Chappell@mchappell51 Sep 24
Looking back at Colts loss at Philly. On endless 17-play, 75-yd go-ahead drive, Eagles converted 3rd and 9 with 10-yd to Agholor. Looked clear Agholor stepped out a 1-2-yd short before diving for FD.

[GoBigBlue88]

Let's be clear, and it's a tangent: Nelson was passing off a stunt and coming back to the DE (Clowney) looping inside. He didn't set and got obliterated. It was a costly play.

We can call a spade a spade: Nelson played poorly yesterday. Ostensibly, he was drafted to improve a nonexistent run game and sure up protection when the Colts face the Clowneys and Watts of the league. You can tell me if you think that has happened since he was drafted, and what that means.

[DrSpaceman]

There was plenty of blame to go around on this one today. Everywhere

How many dropped passes in the first half? I lost count. And then on the 4th down play, it happened so quick, not sure if it was dropped or a bad throw by Luck

Running an empty backfield shotgun out of your own end zone? Was it any surprise that turnover and TD happened? Just stupid.

On the other hand, Kelly, come on many, horrible mistake

OL, OL, OL, especially the tackles, just awful. I know he won't do it, but really, I wouldn't mind even a trade or something to find another at least right tackle. Or a left tackle. Pick one, Right now this team has neither. No idea who might be available, but the team is still being killed on the edge rush

Penalties, that holding call in OT was a killer.

Offensively, yet again a timely turnover just when you needed it and produce no points. And why was that? Three stupid play calls on 2nd, 3rd and 4th down.

Another Luck turnover deep. I know the D did not look great, but when turnovers basically give the other team 17 easy points off two offensive plays, you aren't going to win in this league.

The plus side, Luck looked good late, even without TY Hilton in there. Zach Pascal had the game of his life. A great comeback that again falls short.

Growing pains for a young team and young coach. We expected this. Its disappointing, but I can live with it for now.

If come Nov/Dec this team is still making these same mistakes, I will be very concerned.

Bad calls? yes. But that 0 play clock thing happens quite a bit, the refs give teams quite a bit of leeway it seems on getting the play off after even it hits zero.

Not as bad as Cleveland, got completely SCREWED on an overturned placement on 3rd down and had to punt, lose the game.

What does Frank Reich like for Father's Day?
Anything but a tie