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[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

You guys really need to let go of your hatred blinders. Remember when Caldwell was the worst HC ever, then he went on to win a Super Bowl with Baltimore as a OC and has turned the Lions into a respectable franchise as a HC? McDaniels was, as you put it, a complete dumpster fire in Denver, and he can't even blame that on not having a franchise QB, because he was gifted one that he ran off. I don't want his egomania anywhere near the Colts franchise.

what franchise qb did he run off in Denver?

and caldwell was a bad coach here. then we saw pagano and realized how bad it could get.

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

That's the Harbaugh thing.

Not a fan of Harbaugh

Harbaugh has Colts offense already
!st Down.. Incomplete Pass
2nd Down..Run up middle for 2 0r 3
3rd Down..Either sack ..Incomplete or hit Tight End
Punt

2nd Half Meltdown
Absolutely terrible play calling
Players put in terrible positions

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by smitty46953

Not a fan of Harbaugh

Harbaugh has Colts offense already
!st Down.. Incomplete Pass
2nd Down..Run up middle for 2 0r 3
3rd Down..Either sack ..Incomplete or hit Tight End
Punt

2nd Half Meltdown
Absolutely terrible play calling
Players put in terrible positions

sounds like a perfect fit

[Dewey 5]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

You guys really need to let go of your hatred blinders. Remember when Caldwell was the worst HC ever, then he went on to win a Super Bowl with Baltimore as a OC and has turned the Lions into a respectable franchise as a HC? McDaniels was, as you put it, a complete dumpster fire in Denver, and he can't even blame that on not having a franchise QB, because he was gifted one that he ran off. I don't want his egomania anywhere near the Colts franchise.

Are you seriously saying that Jay fucking Cutler is a franchise qb?

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

what franchise qb did he run off in Denver?

and caldwell was a bad coach here. then we saw pagano and realized how bad it could get.

Cutler, who was coming off a Pro Bowl age 25 season at the time. No one could've predicted he'd be in Chicago to start 2009, or that he'd have 6 different offensive coordinators in the next 8 seasons.

Originally Posted by Dewey 5

Are you seriously saying that Jay fucking Cutler is a franchise qb?

He was a much better QB than most new head coaches get, and looked like a franchise QB at age 26 when McDaniels got him. The Bears screwed him over by constantly changing his offenses, which completely destroyed his development.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Cutler, who was coming off a Pro Bowl age 25 season at the time. No one could've predicted he'd be in Chicago to start 2009, or that he'd have 6 different offensive coordinators in the next 8 seasons.



He was a much better QB than most new head coaches get, and looked like a franchise QB at age 26 when McDaniels got him. The Bears screwed him over by constantly changing his offenses, which completely destroyed his development.

hahaha this dude loves pagano and cutler.

what the ever loving fuck happened with this kid? dam seriously is retarded. how can a retarded person type complete sentences? impressive

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

He's worked with Luck and he's one of the few coaches who has actually shown that his presence makes an appreciable difference in team results. That's the Harbaugh thing.

Holy shit- you actually are trying to pass this shit off as legit?

60 days ago you're on here spewing some stupid fucking shit about variances really being the say all end all and that coaches don't matter... then you are going to try to fly this flag trying to tell us Jim Harbaugh is "one of the few" that has a "presence" sufficient to make a difference. No fucking way, no way!

Jim Harbaugh right- the coach who just lost a late 16 point lead to a really shitty South Carolina team - same guy right? Same guy who's 2nd half of the season was a shit show and left people wondering if his job was secure at his alma mater? Same guy right????

GTH!

[Gimmick]

You realize he's been successful every place he's ever coached, right?
He has a history with Andrew Luck.
He has a history playing for the Indianapolis Colts and was well liked in Indy.

He even turned the incompetent dysfunctional 49ers into a dominant Super Bowl team. He's a no-brainer slam dunk head coaching pick for this particular situation.

The only guy I would maybe like better would be Saban, but even then I don't know. Those two are the shoot for the stars guys. After that, Frank Reich has done tremendous work with the Eagles offense. He's also been tremendous in bringing along Carson Wentz who is not as talented as Andrew Luck, but damn they are getting more out of him talent-wise than the careless Colts have gotten with Andrew.

After those guys anyone else except maybe David Shaw would be an eye-roller who cares kind of pick. The guys in Kansas City are almost certainly overrated and I hate seeing front office guys go back to their old teams for head coach and player acquisition moves. Sure if you need someone for a coordinator or a key player position then make the move but if you are just going back to people you are familiar with wholesale it's known to be a character flaw and failed strategy. Look how that worked out for Grigson and his Eagles retreads over and over again.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Holy shit- you actually are trying to pass this shit off as legit?

60 days ago you're on here spewing some stupid fucking shit about variances really being the say all end all and that coaches don't matter... then you are going to try to fly this flag trying to tell us Jim Harbaugh is "one of the few" that has a "presence" sufficient to make a difference. No fucking way, no way!

Jim Harbaugh right- the coach who just lost a late 16 point lead to a really shitty South Carolina team - same guy right? Same guy who's 2nd half of the season was a shit show and left people wondering if his job was secure at his alma mater? Same guy right????

GTH!

Reading is fundamental, comprehension even moreso. Few is not none, and there's a stark difference between the 49ers under Harbaugh, and both before and after him, that I don't think can be completely explained away by player performance. A substantial portion of the after can likely be explained by the losses they suffered on defense, but I don't think that takes them from perennial contender to top of the draft order overnight by itself, and that says nothing of the before, where they were unsuccessful with pretty much the same roster.

That said, I would completely understand based on the reputation Harbaugh earned if Ballard wanted to avoid him completely, in which case he should get someone like Toub in immediately and focus on assembling a strong staff around him.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by Gimmick

You realize he's been successful every place he's ever coached, right?
He has a history with Andrew Luck.
He has a history playing for the Indianapolis Colts and was well liked in Indy.

He even turned the incompetent dysfunctional 49ers into a dominant Super Bowl team. He's a no-brainer slam dunk head coaching pick for this particular situation.

The only guy I would maybe like better would be Saban, but even then I don't know. Those two are the shoot for the stars guys. After that, Frank Reich has done tremendous work with the Eagles offense. He's also been tremendous in bringing along Carson Wentz who is not as talented as Andrew Luck, but damn they are getting more out of him talent-wise than the careless Colts have gotten with Andrew.

After those guys anyone else except maybe David Shaw would be an eye-roller who cares kind of pick. The guys in Kansas City are almost certainly overrated and I hate seeing front office guys go back to their old teams for head coach and player acquisition moves. Sure if you need someone for a coordinator or a key player position then make the move but if you are just going back to people you are familiar with wholesale it's known to be a character flaw and failed strategy. Look how that worked out for Grigson and his Eagles retreads over and over again.

Hell no to Saban, just hell no!