Taylor has requested to be traded.

[Brylok]

The thing that gets me is that he's injured and still under contract. What else should he expect? The whole thing makes no sense but, hey, it's the Colts. We've gotten used to things not making sense in recent years.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Brylok

The thing that gets me is that he's injured and still under contract. What else should he expect? The whole thing makes no sense but, hey, it's the Colts. We've gotten used to things not making sense in recent years.

Man there is something to be said for this- and also hearing the rumors of JT being "unhappy" about his injury...

WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THIS FRANCHISE?

The other day JMV as asking someone- think it might have been Bowen, if this is just a toxic workplace. Whoever it was responded back with the "that's a bit too strong of a word but there's definitely something not quite right on 56th Street".

Well, and yes I am a hater, without question I am, but is the problem fucking Ballard? Timeline matches up.

Peyton - Wayne era, even despite the James situation, and even in the face of the overwhelming difficulty of the Peyton neck situation- the TEAM was harmonious; seemed like everyone was on the same page. Hell even in the Grigson era it didn't seem like there was this constant level of fucking noise around the team, just bad personnel and coaching decisions.

It's always made me wonder- why did Philip just up and quit football? Had a really good season, had a team that looked like it could have made a run that next year, would have been paid a tidy sum, nope, just gonna quit. Hines, Gilmore and it appears Okereke to a lesser extent all made it apparent they wanted to leave this team. Let's not forget, Ballard is also responsible for saying they looked at like 30 minutes of film on Ryan and determined he still had it (wtf- why is he still here????).

Is it just his fixation on "his boys" that is causing a bunch of this? And is Jim's over-reaching last year and now clearly way too fucking far into this shit, a reflection on Ballard just being a stooge and Irsay having to act because Ballard is a GM in name only?

Whatever is the fuel behind this, and I am not in the camp that it is Jim just given some of the past work- with a guy like Edge asking him to do is invocation and rolling with him to the podium- man I just have a hard time believing this is Jim's doings. Whatever it is, this shit needs to be rooted out and gotten rid of. This franchise is better than this petty shit that's been going around here the last several years.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

You want to send a message to his pain in the ass agent, put him on the NFI list and sign either Cook or Elliot, then use the franchise tag on him next year. I'm tired reading about these multi million dollar a year athletes complaining about not being paid enough!!

and here is the worst sports fan take in the world.

the owners are making billions. do you know the difference between a billion and a million?

JT is one of the best in the world at his position. not a lot of people can do what he does as good or better than him. he is in an argument about his value. faulting him for that is dumb. the way he is handling it is stupid but him wanting to make as much money as he can is smart.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Man there is something to be said for this- and also hearing the rumors of JT being "unhappy" about his injury...

WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THIS FRANCHISE?

The other day JMV as asking someone- think it might have been Bowen, if this is just a toxic workplace. Whoever it was responded back with the "that's a bit too strong of a word but there's definitely something not quite right on 56th Street".

Well, and yes I am a hater, without question I am, but is the problem fucking Ballard? Timeline matches up.

Peyton - Wayne era, even despite the James situation, and even in the face of the overwhelming difficulty of the Peyton neck situation- the TEAM was harmonious; seemed like everyone was on the same page. Hell even in the Grigson era it didn't seem like there was this constant level of fucking noise around the team, just bad personnel and coaching decisions.

It's always made me wonder- why did Philip just up and quit football? Had a really good season, had a team that looked like it could have made a run that next year, would have been paid a tidy sum, nope, just gonna quit. Hines, Gilmore and it appears Okereke to a lesser extent all made it apparent they wanted to leave this team. Let's not forget, Ballard is also responsible for saying they looked at like 30 minutes of film on Ryan and determined he still had it (wtf- why is he still here????).

Is it just his fixation on "his boys" that is causing a bunch of this? And is Jim's over-reaching last year and now clearly way too fucking far into this shit, a reflection on Ballard just being a stooge and Irsay having to act because Ballard is a GM in name only?

Whatever is the fuel behind this, and I am not in the camp that it is Jim just given some of the past work- with a guy like Edge asking him to do is invocation and rolling with him to the podium- man I just have a hard time believing this is Jim's doings. Whatever it is, this shit needs to be rooted out and gotten rid of. This franchise is better than this petty shit that's been going around here the last several years.

lack of winning and very poor leadership is my guess. i think reich was a good football coach but it doesn't seem to me like he was a great leader. who are the actual team leaders? Leonard? yeah right

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

lack of winning and very poor leadership is my guess. i think reich was a good football coach but it doesn't seem to me like he was a great leader. who are the actual team leaders? Leonard? yeah right

Yeah there's definitely been a void. Hopefully AR rapidly ascends to that role. Certainly seems to have that work ethic that establishes a foundation of accountability- which is a great start.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

lack of winning and very poor leadership is my guess. i think reich was a good football coach but it doesn't seem to me like he was a great leader. who are the actual team leaders? Leonard? yeah right

This is, and has been, a huge issue. I think Buckner is the only leader on the whole team. Need more than that.

[Chromeburn]

Pat today said things are easing up a bit. Maybe a little progress has been made.

https://twitter.com/patmcafeeshow/st...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by ukcolt

Yes, by paying him what he wants for 3 years. Which has a lot of risks attached to it for the Colts.

In my opinion he is the best pure running back in the league, but he is not as versatile in the passing game as others, so shouldn't be paid the sums of money that the likes of McCaffrey or Kamara have been paid.

The biggest quandary I can see for the Colts, is that with Richardson at QB and the growing pains he is likely to go through, Taylor is far more valuable to the Colts than he is to most other franchises.

CMC and kamara are more versatile and can impact across the league. Things out JT though is he can break that big run at any time. It really hurts that two deep shell and FA force them into single deep to defend him. Then you have AR as a runner. I think he stays eventually.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

and here is the worst sports fan take in the world.

The owners are making billions ...... do you know the difference between a billion and a million ???

JT is one of the best in the world at his position. not a lot of people can do what he does as good or better than him. he is in an argument about his value. faulting him for that is dumb. the way he is handling it is stupid but him wanting to make as much money as he can is smart.

o


"Shaquille O'Neal is rich ,,,,,, the white man that signs his paycheck is wealthy."


Chris Rock, 2003

o

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

and here is the worst sports fan take in the world.

the owners are making billions. do you know the difference between a billion and a million?

JT is one of the best in the world at his position. not a lot of people can do what he does as good or better than him. he is in an argument about his value. faulting him for that is dumb. the way he is handling it is stupid but him wanting to make as much money as he can is smart.

That is the problem with most sports fans. They see everything as black and white, where one side is right and the other is wrong. The problem with that is that both sides are right and wrong at the same time. JT is a rare RB, but that position is devalued at the present. When you have a JT, though, you need to see what a game-changer he is and act accordingly. Yes, Irsay was right about "bad faith", but he was wrong to say it at a time when his RB is looking for an extension. JT is right that he deserves an extension, but he is wrong to ask for it when he has not passed his physical.