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Old 08-03-2023, 05:05 PM
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but also in all of this, irsay really needs to shut up. let ballard handle things with the team.
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Old 08-03-2023, 06:14 PM
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Ummm Holder just said that the trade demand DID NOT happen post Irsay meeting- that meeting was instead an attempt by Jim to get Taylor to walk back his TRADE DEMAND ON THE FIRST DAY OF CAMP!

Wow, and with that, it's officially FU JT time. That would indicate he took this position BEFORE the RB Zoom call. That would say he wasn't cajoled into this role, that would indicate this dude is just belly aching about the status of the RB pay scale. Well dude, as Dungy said, it sucks, but that's what the pay scale is for your role right now.

Sit him out, let him rot, suck suck suck, 3-14 and Marvin Harrison JR with pick # 3 and restart this whole MF'er!
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I see both sides of the argument. JT carried this offense a lot, he sat and watched other guys get paid at non premium positions early. Extensions for Darius, Q, Smith, Kelly, Grover etc. Also hearing from the staff we take care of our guys, we sign our own etc. So yeah when his time has rolled around it’s crickets. So I understand that it seems unfair, that it’s not what it should be. It sucks, but he is not in a good spot with zero leverage. Going to have to be realistic that RBs are undervalued in todays’s NFL.

Don’t think this agent is helping either. Seems like a moron.

Another thing that is kinda going unnoticed though is the fact Pittman hasn’t received a deal either. I think it’s more a coaching switch than anything. New sheriff in town and guys have to prove themselves in this new system. Steichen needs to see you as a guy that will work in his system. Think a lot of ppl are missing that fact.

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Old 08-03-2023, 09:43 PM
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Another thing that is kinda going unnoticed though is the fact Pittman hasn’t received a deal either. I think it’s more a coaching switch than anything. New sheriff in town and guys have to prove themselves in this new system. Steichen needs to see you as a guy that will work in his system. Think a lot of ppl are missing that fact.
Somewhere I read that Ballard had informed players they were not doing extensions this off-season until they see how players are fit with the new scheme.
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Old 08-03-2023, 11:51 PM
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Mark Schlereth earlier slightly butt-hurt Rich Eisen with his market capitalist take. He didn't give a shit about the plight of RBs. Said none of them were on a podium or having meetings when the fullback position was going extinct. Funny point but shows the nature of the market/game.

Other interesting part was a reminder that his Broncos in the late 90's/early 00's kind of popularized the notion of RBs being replaceable. I hadn't thought about those guys in a while...

Terrell Davis to Olandis Gary to Mike Anderson to Clinton Portis to Reuben Droughns then back to Mike Anderson... 1500yd backs were the running joke about Shanahans Broncos. But RB by committee was also in full force. For example, when Anderson got another shot to start, he barely cracked 1000... But DEN had almost 2600yds rushing that season.
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I’m also hearing rumblings that JT was unhappy with the way his injury was treated last season but at this point it just seems like sour grapes.

Seems like he’s just throwing anything out there to try and make himself look better.

I think it was Holder who was saying this.
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I think it is too late to salvage this relationship....but it really sucks that we lose JT when he can be such an explosive player. Does anybody think there is a solution to this that results in JT remaining a Colt beyond this season?
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Yes, by paying him what he wants for 3 years. Which has a lot of risks attached to it for the Colts.

In my opinion he is the best pure running back in the league, but he is not as versatile in the passing game as others, so shouldn't be paid the sums of money that the likes of McCaffrey or Kamara have been paid.

The biggest quandary I can see for the Colts, is that with Richardson at QB and the growing pains he is likely to go through, Taylor is far more valuable to the Colts than he is to most other franchises.
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I think it is too late to salvage this relationship....but it really sucks that we lose JT when he can be such an explosive player. Does anybody think there is a solution to this that results in JT remaining a Colt beyond this season?
Perhaps it's irreparable. Although we have seen other ugly situations to varying degrees where the player ultimately stays with their team. People are forgiving. Kenny Moore, for example, wasn't anywhere near this ugly and still a lot of people thought he was done with the Colts. We'll see.

That said, it would have to almost exclusively come from JT and Co. conceding that reality is not on their side. I would hope for some semblance of a united front from the owners/GM's where they look at past examples like Le'Veon Bell, Deshaun Watson, and Lamar Jackson, and don't cave in to this type of thing.

Hopefully make Taylor realize that his best option all along was to bust his ass here in '23 and let the chips fall where they may. Whether that means a new deal here or in FA... or if that means a $13m franchise tag in '24 before he gets a new deal.

Whatever it is, it's better than this for him.
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You want to send a message to his pain in the ass agent, put him on the NFI list and sign either Cook or Elliot, then use the franchise tag on him next year. I'm tired reading about these multi million dollar a year athletes complaining about not being paid enough!!
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