COVID in the complex

[JAFF]

I know this is completely impractical but the possibility of me of me buying tickets in the near future it’s going to be dependent upon whether or not the team can be healthy during the season. Until the NFL or the Indianapolis Colts get their shit together about taking a vaccine that would save the lives of the players and their families and the people around them, I think I’m gonna be watching on the TV

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Glow and Smith are vaxed. Glow should be back for the next game.

Problem is the Raiders have the best pass rush pressure rate in the NFL and blitz the least in the league. So 8 defenders are dropping back.

My bad, so I guess Smith is not vaxed. So he will definitely be out for the raiders game.

[Puck]

CDC has reduced the isolation period from 10 to 5 days For asymptomatic Still getting the details now

[ChaosTheory]

No shit it's the NFLPA. They were testing until it started looking bad, then they wanted less testing. And the NFL agreed. So are these guys actually all that worried about the spread? Doesn't seem like it to me. Seems to me that they want to appear to be concerned.

And if they didn't negotiate for what they have now, then what? Do you see how many guys around the league are going on the list anyway?

https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.co...-nfl-policies/

Go down the list and look at all the late November and December cases. A big part of all of this could be that they know it's inevitable. Everyone is going to catch this motherfucker.

I'm curious what their move is when it's Colts-Cardinals level of product across the whole league.

[Drewtone]

Originally Posted by JAFF

I know this is completely impractical but the possibility of me of me buying tickets in the near future it’s going to be dependent upon whether or not the team can be healthy during the season. Until the NFL or the Indianapolis Colts get their shit together about taking a vaccine that would save the lives of the players and their families and the people around them, I think I’m gonna be watching on the TV

You're certainly welcome to use your own risk assessment to guide the support of the team in person. Regarding the 2nd part, and speaking as someone who got my booster Friday, this is a ridiculously stupid take. Had Xmas eve dinner with the head of the ICU at our big hospital and they're considering having their positive asymptomatic workers come back to work. He also said at my age (52, healthy) didn't really need the booster to combat the Chron variant, not that the vaccines inhibit transmission on anyway.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by Drewtone

You're certainly welcome to use your own risk assessment to guide the support of the team in person. Regarding the 2nd part, and speaking as someone who got my booster Friday, this is a ridiculously stupid take. Had Xmas eve dinner with the head of the ICU at our big hospital and they're considering having their positive asymptomatic workers come back to work. He also said at my age (52, healthy) didn't really need the booster to combat the Chron variant, not that the vaccines inhibit transmission on anyway.

Are you in Indiana Drewtone?

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

No shit it's the NFLPA. They were testing until it started looking bad, then they wanted less testing. And the NFL agreed. So are these guys actually all that worried about the spread? Doesn't seem like it to me. Seems to me that they want to appear to be concerned.

And if they didn't negotiate for what they have now, then what? Do you see how many guys around the league are going on the list anyway?

https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.co...-nfl-policies/

Go down the list and look at all the late November and December cases. A big part of all of this could be that they know it's inevitable. Everyone is going to catch this motherfucker.

I'm curious what their move is when it's Colts-Cardinals level of product across the whole league.

I guess I’m missing your point. It’s seems you are just yelling into the wind that Covid sucks and is affecting football (along with everything else). Are you suggesting the answer is more testing and more strict enforcement? Then you need agreement between the NFLPA and the NFL. Are you suggesting they should throw out all precautions and let players play with it? That’s irresponsible and hugely bad publicity.

I’m involved in making decisions about our response at my work and I can tell you that no matter what you do people are going to be pissed and say how stupid everything is. We have people in the hospital and people who believe it all fake and made up. WTF do you do where someone isn’t pissed off and complaining? NFL players themselves are fairly low risk, although not without any risk. The best way for the NFL to protect themselves and their investment was to incentivize vaccines. Even lower chance of major health issue and it would play well image wise. Lower testing for vaccinated players both incentivizes vaccination and, as you point out, lowers the number of players testing positive and missing games. Win, win. Who loses? The selfish unvaccinated guys. As they’ll quickly point out - their choice. The other losers are the fans of teams with that culture.

The ultimate answer for the players was to understand the rules and make sure they maximize both their protection and availability. The Colts did that to a lower degree than most teams and it may very well bite them. That’s not on the NFL, that’s on players putting Facebook over reality. And it sucks for Colts fans. But that was the players choice. I feel sorry for guys like Buckner. There are only so many years you truly have a chance at a SB. Leonard, Nelson, Wentz etc may waste one.

[Oldcolt]

Life isn't fair. To anyone. Just accept it.

[Puck]

Since we have so many "Drs" on here. I have a scenario for you to read through and give your answers to the questions.

A healthy middle aged woman gets covid and within days her husband also very healthy also gets covid. For a few days symptoms were not too bad. Just a mild cough runny nose and some fatigue. But after 2 days the husband takes a real turn and has a fever, sever chills (sever flu symptoms) to which he said were the worst of his life. The wife meanwhile still has the same symptoms.
After another rough day for the husband. He returns to mostly normal except for slight runny nose and a slight cough. They did not quarantine from each other at any point.

So both are able to catch the virus, and transmit the virus and one with harsh symptoms one with very lite symptoms

This is a real couple and real circumstances

So the question I would like you to answer.

1. Are either of these two people vaccinated?

[Oldcolt]

As a practicing physician for 40 years, recently retired, that isn't how it works. Any single individual may have an easy course or a difficult one regardless of vaccination status. Giving the vaccine to a large population, less of those vaccinated will get sick or die, but it doesn't mean that nobody who is vaccinated will get sick or die. Statistics cannot tell you how any individual will respond, it will tell you how a population will respond.