Colts Trade Dwayne Allen to the Patriots

[Butter]

I think for as little as we got for him Allen should have been given another season. Unless there is some stuff behind the scenes with attitude or effort it just doesn't make much sense to me.

[sherck]

Originally Posted by Butter

I think for as little as we got for him Allen should have been given another season. Unless there is some stuff behind the scenes with attitude or effort it just doesn't make much sense to me.

I pointed this out in the salary cup update post, but:

The only guys now making "superstar" money ($10m+ per year) are, you know, NFL stars whom could start on almost any team in the league: Luck, Hilton, Davis and Castonzo.

The guys making "good" starter money ($5m - $9.9m per year) are "Ballard" guys: Doyle, Sheard, Simon.

Everyone else is making $4.250m or less a year and is not "big" money.

Ballard has axed (or retired) everyone who does not fit his mold: Robinson, D'Q, Allen, Walden, Jones, Mathis, Cole, Adams. None superstars and, apparently, none in the mold of what Ballard wanted.

The roster is completely clean of dead weight.

In 2018, the ONLY folks with more than $1m in "dead cap" are: Luck, Hilton, Castonzo and Ryan Kelly (and the 2017 1st round draft pick). And all of them, except Kelly and the 2017 1st round draft pick, could be cut and deliver 2018 cap savings if required.

Our cap is COMPLETELY CLEAN and 100% changeable. No one HAS to be kept because of their cap ramifications.

And that is the way it should be. Allen may have been good (when healthy), but the 4th round draft pick TE we get to replace him will (hopefully) be good and a whole lot cheaper.

Cheers,

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by sherck

I pointed this out in the salary cup update post, but:

The only guys now making "superstar" money ($10m+ per year) are, you know, NFL stars whom could start on almost any team in the league: Luck, Hilton, Davis and Castonzo.

The guys making "good" starter money ($5m - $9.9m per year) are "Ballard" guys: Doyle, Sheard, Simon.

Everyone else is making $4.250m or less a year and is not "big" money.

Ballard has axed (or retired) everyone who does not fit his mold: Robinson, D'Q, Allen, Walden, Jones, Mathis, Cole, Adams. None superstars and, apparently, none in the mold of what Ballard wanted.

The roster is completely clean of dead weight.

In 2018, the ONLY folks with more than $1m in "dead cap" are: Luck, Hilton, Castonzo and Ryan Kelly (and the 2017 1st round draft pick). And all of them, except Kelly and the 2017 1st round draft pick, could be cut and deliver 2018 cap savings if required.

Our cap is COMPLETELY CLEAN and 100% changeable. No one HAS to be kept because of their cap ramifications.

And that is the way it should be. Allen may have been good (when healthy), but the 4th round draft pick TE we get to replace him will (hopefully) be good and a whole lot cheaper.

Cheers,

we don't need to drop a 4th on a te. defense or oline. 4th round picks can get you talent. the defense needs talent.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

we don't need to drop a 4th on a te. defense or oline. 4th round picks can get you talent. the defense needs talent.

Doyle/Swoppe is good enough. Definitely take BPA in the 4th and don't force a TE.

[Puck]

Stephen Holder‏ @HolderStephen

Among the things Ballard emphasized, he is VERY bullish on Erik Swoope. Like very, very. Wants to see his ceiling. A factor in Allen trade.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Butter

I think for as little as we got for him Allen should have been given another season. Unless there is some stuff behind the scenes with attitude or effort it just doesn't make much sense to me.

yep

i agree.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Butter

I think for as little as we got for him Allen should have been given another season. Unless there is some stuff behind the scenes with attitude or effort it just doesn't make much sense to me.

Just wasn't worth the contract. Moving him now accelerates the remaining cap hit and he'll be off the books next offseason.