Players reportedly available via trade / roster cut

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

o


Belichick was fined the maximum $500,000, the team was fined an additional $250,000, and they forfeited a 1st-round draft pick for Spygate I.

The Patriots were fined $1.1 Million, and forfeited a 3rd-round pick for Spygate II.

You could argue that the punishment should have been more severe, particularly for Spygate II, but the NFL didn't just let him do it. They probably should have suspended him half of a season for Spygate I, and for a full season for Spygate II.

o

If future prevention was the goal, any punishment short of lifetime bans for Brady and Belichick and official derecognition of all of their career accomplishments was and still is insufficient. Belichick made tens of millions and Brady made hundreds of millions, and COMBINED, they, along with billionaire Kraft who made billions off the scheme, had to pay fines of $1.1 million? The moral of that story to any smart businessperson is do it again as many times as you can.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If future prevention was the goal, any punishment short of lifetime bans for Brady and Belichick and official derecognition of all of their career accomplishments was and still is insufficient. Belichick made tens of millions and Brady made hundreds of millions, and COMBINED, they, along with billionaire Kraft who made billions off the scheme, had to pay fines of $1.1 million? The moral of that story to any smart businessperson is do it again as many times as you can.

When the other owners hold their members accountable it will happen. When that happens, monkeys will fly out of Jim Irsays ass

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by JAFF

When the other owners hold their members accountable it will happen. When that happens, monkeys will fly out of Jim Irsays ass

I didn't say ban Kraft. Of course the owners aren't going to be held to account. That doesn't mean the players, coaches, and franchise shouldn't be.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by JAFF

When the other owners hold their members accountable it will happen. When that happens, monkeys will fly out of Jim Irsays ass

Jim said it happened once. However, he was likely stoned.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Jim said it happened once. However, he was likely stoned.

I would like to party with Jim.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If future prevention was the goal, any punishment short of lifetime bans for Brady and Belichick and official derecognition of all of their career accomplishments was and still is insufficient. Belichick made tens of millions and Brady made hundreds of millions, and COMBINED, they, along with billionaire Kraft who made billions off the scheme, had to pay fines of $1.1 million? The moral of that story to any smart businessperson is do it again as many times as you can. You can't penalize based on what you think probably happened.

o


Indy Norm ) was correct. A one-year ban in the first place would have prevented any incidents in the future, because the next step would have been a lifetime ban.

Banning for life on the first offense for cheating would have opened a can of worms in the second place that would have caused more damage than good.

It's possible that Belichick was cheating before Spygate, but there would be no way to prove that, hence there would be no way to penalize for that.

o

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

You can't penalize based on what you think probably happened.

Just wanted to address this, since the rest is opinion and we'll just have to agree to disagree. The NFL had mountains of evidence when they did their investigation into the extent of the cheating, and they destroyed all of it. It was a commonly known fact that NE was cheating throughout the league, as evidenced by the below Peyton Manning interview released weeks before the Spygate story broke:

https://vault.si.com/vault/2007/09/0...---099---image

Originally Posted by Peyton Manning

I constantly think about teams stealing our signals. I know New England films me when we're up there.

So it's not "what [I] think probably happened", it's well known fact throughout the league that the NFL intentionally covered up.