Wentz trade coming soon

[Spike]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Also seeing reports that Foles might come to Indy as part of Wentz trade to Bears. Foles would be a perfect veteran placeholder for a rookie QB acquired in a trade up. I hope Ballard likes Mac Jones.

I'm betting that Mac Jones is a bust. Alabama QB's don't do shit in the NFL. Look at Tua, and all the prior Alabama QB's. Everything is so perfect for them at Alabama, not the same in the NFL. The only QB I am almost certain will be really good in this years draft is Lawrence.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by Spike

I'm betting that Mac Jones is a bust. Alabama QB's don't do shit in the NFL. Look at Tua, and all the prior Alabama QB's. Everything is so perfect for them at Alabama, not the same in the NFL. The only QB I am almost certain will be really good in this years draft is Lawrence.

Joe Namath is the most overrated QB in NFL history. Just look at his numbers ffs. He's all swag and a fur coat.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by Brylok

Joe Namath is the most overrated QB in NFL history. Just look at his numbers ffs. He's all swag and a fur coat.

Totally agree, if not for his SB win against the Colts he wouldn't be in the hall of fame. His numbers are pathetic.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Brylok

Joe Namath is the most overrated QB in NFL history. Just look at his numbers ffs. He's all swag and a fur coat.

At least he represents the Jets with class and respectability in his old age.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

At least he represents the Jets with class and respectability in his old age.

Somebody has to I guess. I don't hate the man, he's just overrated. He played before I was born anyway.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

At least he represents the Jets with class and respectability in his old age.

Class and respectability, a couple of years ago he was drunk on air when he said to Susie Kolber “I would like to kiss you right now”. He’s an overrated buffoon, always has been and always will be!!

[ZionsvilleColtsFan]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

At least he represents the Jets with class and respectability in his old age.

Joe's battle with alcoholism has been pretty well documented. The HBO special on him a few years ago was one of the best I've seen. He was my favorite QB growing up and injuries took a huge toll on his career and his stats. The couple seasons he was healthy 1968-69 he was among the best of his era. Should he be in HOF is questionable but he was sure entertaining even when he played on some lousy teams.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

At least Namath represents the Jets with class and respectability in his old age.

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In 1967, Joe Namath became the first player ever in NFL-AFL history to throw for more than 4,000 yards in a single season (he threw for 4,007 yards that season for the Jets.)

Keep in mind that there were only 14-game schedules as the time, as opposed to the 16-game schedules that have been prevalent since the 1978 season.



Strange, but true......no Jets quarterback has ever had a 4,000-yard season since then......even with the 16-game schedule in its 43rd season, and all of the rule changes that have greatly benefitted quarterbacks and their receivers in the past 15-20 years.


https://www.pro-football-reference.c...on-passing.htm



11) l Joe Namath lllllllllllllllllllllll, 1967 lllllllllllllll 4,007

12) l Ryan Fitzpatrick lllllllllllllllll 2015 lllllllllllllll 3,905

13) l Ken O'Brien llllllllllllllllllllll,, 1985 lllllllllllllll 3,888

14) l Vinny Testaverde llllllllllll,, 2000 llllllllllll,, 3,732

15) l Ken O'Brien lllllllllllllllllllllllll 1986 llllllllllll.. 3,690

16) l Richard Todd lllllllllll,,,,llllll 1983 lllllllllllllll 3,478

17) l Mark Sanchez lllllllllllllllllllll 2011 lllllllllllllll 3,474

18) l Brett Favre llllllllllllllllllllllllll 2008 lllllllllllllll 3,472

19) l Boomer Esiason lllllllllllllllll 1993 llllllllllllll) 3,421

10) , Joe Namath llllllllllllllllll,,,,, 1966 llllllllllllll, 3,379

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[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Spike

I'm betting that Mac Jones is a bust. Alabama QB's don't do shit in the NFL. Look at Tua, and all the prior Alabama QB's. Everything is so perfect for them at Alabama, not the same in the NFL. The only QB I am almost certain will be really good in this years draft is Lawrence.

If you think that, then you haven't watched his tape. You can dock him if you'd like for having all the talent around him, but then you have to explain why every coach also thought he was the best QB at the Senior Bowl and had nothing but positive to say about him. Watch him vs. Georgia if you want an example of him succeeding under adverse conditions. He doesn't have clean pockets all night and college open receivers on every play in that game. Very early in the game, he gets drilled by Ojulari, who is a free rusher on the play, but manages to step into a deep shot on a post to Waddle who takes it 90+ yards to the house. Several other times he steps up into collapsing pockets and takes shots to deliver throws where and when they need to be. The anticipation and processing speed with which he works is elite.

Also, I don't think people who think Lawrence is can't miss have watched his tape, either. He certainly has the physical tools to potentially be the best QB in the NFL for a long period of time, but don't let anyone fool you into believing there isn't a bust floor there. He's going to have to get much better at reading defenses in the NFL and throwing with anticipation if he wants to succeed in the NFL and have a long career that isn't cut short by injuries from excessive running.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If you think that, then you haven't watched his tape. You can dock him if you'd like for having all the talent around him, but then you have to explain why every coach also thought he was the best QB at the Senior Bowl and had nothing but positive to say about him. Watch him vs. Georgia if you want an example of him succeeding under adverse conditions. He doesn't have clean pockets all night and college open receivers on every play in that game. Very early in the game, he gets drilled by Ojulari, who is a free rusher on the play, but manages to step into a deep shot on a post to Waddle who takes it 90+ yards to the house. Several other times he steps up into collapsing pockets and takes shots to deliver throws where and when they need to be. The anticipation and processing speed with which he works is elite.

Also, I don't think people who think Lawrence is can't miss have watched his tape, either. He certainly has the physical tools to potentially be the best QB in the NFL for a long period of time, but don't let anyone fool you into believing there isn't a bust floor there. He's going to have to get much better at reading defenses in the NFL and throwing with anticipation if he wants to succeed in the NFL and have a long career that isn't cut short by injuries from excessive running.

Well, we will just have to disagree Dam. Time will tell.