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Old 09-03-2019, 08:51 AM
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Pretty sure it is guaranteed against not getting paid it.
Perhaps, but guarantees in NFL contracts aren't always what they appear to be. Colin Kaepernick famously had $61M in guaranteed money in his 2014 contract with the 49ers, but ultimately received much less because much of the money was "guaranteed" against injury only. Not saying that's what happened here, but only that we won't know the full extent of the Colts commitment until we see all of the details.
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A bit rich for my blood. I would have just assumed wait to see how he does before talking extension with him, given his limited track record (he threw only 4 passes all last year). However, listening to some of your comments I can see the rationale for doing it now I guess. That said, as we sit here today, I would have pegged his value on a new two-year contract at about $8-10 million per, particularly since we already had him locked in at $2-3 million this year.

But the Colts certainly know him better than I do, and I guess I could look at it as a positive that they like him enough to pay him that much (there’s also the lingering issue that we don’t know all the contract details yet, specifically what the $20 million is guaranteed against).
-Bridgewater got $7.5MM from the Saints to back up Brees
-Foles got $22MM/year from the Jags to start
-Mike Glennon got $15MM/year from the Bears before they drafted Trubisky

$15MM is the going rate for a low end starter.
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To me it is a great move because of the circumstances this team finds itself in. Whatever you think about Luck retiring, it had to be at some level a gut punch to this team. By giving Jacoby this contract (which they can easily afford) they get rid of a possible distraction if Brissett does as well as they think he will (ie. the starting qb making less than a ton of guys on the team including his backup), they put a stamp on the Luck era being over, and they 'put their money where their mouth was' thus doing everything in their power to put the focus on this season and winning it all. It sends a message that this regime knows how to take care of it's players (Jacoby has shown that he is all about the team the way he handled Luck's absence and Luck coming back-I'm assuming the Colts rewarded him for that among other things), should be of help in upping the emotional state of the team and seems to me at least to be a move of a front office that doesn't panic and know what in the hell they are doing.

One last thing about Ballard. Brissett for Dorsett is beginning to have the look of a pretty good trade isn't it?

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-Bridgewater got $7.5MM from the Saints to back up Brees
-Foles got $22MM/year from the Jags to start
-Mike Glennon got $15MM/year from the Bears before they drafted Trubisky

$15MM is the going rate for a low end starter.
That might be the case, but we ripped up a one-year $2M-3M deal and apparently replaced it with a two-year $30M deal. That was my point.

If we just added another year at the low end starter rate you mentioned of $15M I probably wouldn't complain too much.

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That might be the case, but we ripped up a one-year $2M-3M deal and apparently replaced it with a two-year $30M deal. That was my point.

If we just added another year at the low end starter rate you mentioned of $15M I probably wouldn't complain too much.
Its two years. He would be playing for us this year regardless unless he completely shits the bed. So he gets a big raise this year (I think its $20M this year) which is no biggie to our cap space. If he plays well then its worth it.

We are not locked in long term. If he is playing at a high level then we get him relativley cheap next year. If not or if they see him as a stop gap, then draft someone and the new QB plays behind brisset for a year.
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That might be the case, but we ripped up a one-year $2M-3M deal and apparently replaced it with a two-year $30M deal. That was my point.

If we just added another year at the low end starter rate you mentioned of $15M I probably wouldn't complain too much.
None of that matters. What is the downside? They used up a drop of the ocean of cap space they have available to them in 2020?
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Maybe over simplifying, but you cant bring in Hoyer and pay him 4 million a year and they pay brissett 2 million to start ahead of him.

Such a move would undermine the Ballard culture that he is thus far maintaining in a very consistent way.

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