Quenton Nelson (G-ND) Rd #1 Pick #6

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by Coltsalr

Yeah, agreed, Philly’s offense was #3 in the NFL in rushing last year.

They need to have the guys to do that. It’ll be interesting to see if they decide we need a 2nd round RB in order to help facilitate such a rushing attack.

perhaps it's time for another LSU RB

I would like to see them get Guice, Josh Jackson, and Jefferson

Originally Posted by Dam8610

The years when the Colts drafted their starting guards on Day 3, impact defenders with top 15 picks, and the OL had 1 first round pick on the roster. Those years.

I'm thinking more when they Drafted Tarik Glenn in round one, Adam Meadows in round two..
And we had Manning instead of Luck, who is no Manning

[DrSpaceman]

Its obvious Ballard has the long term in mind for building the team, so best player available is going to win out right now, with all the holes on the team, over need or the spot in the draft every single time.

Nelson was the best player available and it was a huge need, so screw it if people so its too high for a guard.

You want to know who else everyone thought the Colts drafted too high, for various reasons? Dwight Freeney. Heard the same things. Could have traded down, not a value pick, too high for his talent level, etc. Now he is headed to the HOF in 5 years and he was the cornerstone of the D for almost a decade

Right now, screw it up they are "too high" according to this chart or this opinion. The team needs talent almost everywhere. We aren't fixing this team in one draft or one free agency. Right now you take the best talent that is there

People might hate it because its offense, but if Hernandez for the other OG and Chubb from Georgia are there, I say take them too tonight

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by testcase448

I'm thinking more when they Drafted Tarik Glenn in round one, Adam Meadows in round two..
And we had Manning instead of Luck, who is no Manning

Luck is fine. It was a bad scheme and bad line that hurt us. Can't have a long ball scheme with a power run line. You need pass blockers not road graders. Then they telegraphed all their runs. Fuck, why did we not fire grigs and pags years ago? I was ok with the defensive system, but you need good LB's for a 3-4 and we never invested in LB's. Fucking whole thing was stupid.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

Its obvious Ballard has the long term in mind for building the team, so best player available is going to win out right now, with all the holes on the team, over need or the spot in the draft every single time.

Nelson was the best player available and it was a huge need, so screw it if people so its too high for a guard.

You want to know who else everyone thought the Colts drafted too high, for various reasons? Dwight Freeney. Heard the same things. Could have traded down, not a value pick, too high for his talent level, etc. Now he is headed to the HOF in 5 years and he was the cornerstone of the D for almost a decade

Right now, screw it up they are "too high" according to this chart or this opinion. The team needs talent almost everywhere. We aren't fixing this team in one draft or one free agency. Right now you take the best talent that is there

People might hate it because its offense, but if Hernandez for the other OG and Chubb from Georgia are there, I say take them too tonight

Freeney was a pass rusher, though. Those are premium. No one is knocking Nelson for his talent. His position is just not high enough value to warrant spending that high of a pick on him. Making that comparison demonstrates a lack of understanding of what the problem with this pick is.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by rm1369

I think it goes without saying that we can’t evaluate Nelson or the situation yet. But doesn’t that also apply to the guys measuring him for his hall of fame jacket already too? But ultimately what’s the fun in that? I’ve given my opinion on the pick and I’ll happily admit I’m wrong if Nelson ends up in Canton and the Colts win some titles behind the strength of their offensive line. Will others admit they were wrong if Nelson is a top guard but the team is bounced earlier than expect in the playoffs every year because they lack defensive difference makers?

It is a little ridiculous. I expect some Chuck Norris like jokes coming soon. Everyone just expects this to solve all the line problems. I can barely post on stampede blue right now, I think they are in the midst of a parade. What I am afraid is like Kelly, the better player goes later in the draft and we used a high pick yet again on a position you can fill competently with a lower pick.

There is a logical argument for him, and with so much money invested in Luck, keeping him healthy is a priority. I just hate that we have spent so many picks on oline the last couple years. Meanwhile our defense is crap and needs some serious investment.

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Freeney was a pass rusher, though. Those are premium. No one is knocking Nelson for his talent. His position is just not high enough value to warrant spending that high of a pick on him. Making that comparison demonstrates a lack of understanding of what the problem with this pick is.

The OL has been awful for 10 years, so I don't care if people think OG in general is not enough value for most teams.

Your comments demonstrate a general lack of underestimating how bad the Colts have needed better lineman for the past 10 years.

But you comments will be noted and we will be sure to mention them at Nelson's HOF induction in 2035

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

The OL has been awful for 10 years, so I don't care if people think OG in general is not enough value for most teams.

Your comments demonstrate a general lack of underestimating how bad the Colts have needed better lineman for the past 10 years.

But you comments will be noted and we will be sure to mention them at Nelson's HOF induction in 2035

Yep, I'm sure he'll get inducted right next to Aaron Curry and A.J. Hawk. The "safe pick" hall of fame.

[smitty46953]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Yep, I'm sure he'll get inducted right next to Aaron Curry and A.J. Hawk. The "safe pick" hall of fame.

You are in serious need of a set of balls. whiniest puss I have ever seen ...

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

It is a little ridiculous. I expect some Chuck Norris like jokes coming soon. Everyone just expects this to solve all the line problems. I can barely post on stampede blue right now, I think they are in the midst of a parade. What I am afraid is like Kelly, they better player goes later in the draft and we used a high pick yet again on a position you can fill competently with a lower pick.

There is a logical argument for him, and with so much money invested in Luck, keeping him healthy is a priority. I just hate that we have spent so many picks on oline the last couple years. Meanwhile our defense is crap and needs some serious investment.

THIS! ALL OF THIS!

We could've been looking at two potential defensive stalwarts not even old enough to drink alcohol legally yet, both physical freaks of nature who could dominate for the next 15+ years, and a serious infusion of talent on defense. Instead we have a guard who doesn't really even solve the problem he was brought in to solve and a hope that maybe we'll see some defenders drafted today. Green dot helmet wearers and pass rushers aren't typically found on Day 3. Starting guards are.