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[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

I'm not saying that. I'm just saying we'd be better off w/ Ehlinger than Daniel Jones.

To say that Ehlinger is on the same level as Jones is ludicrous. I'm not wedded to Jones, but I do want an experienced, athletic, younger QB (mid to late 20s). How many of those can you name?

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by apballin

Be interesting to see who the “competition “ is at QB

Do they put some real heat on his ass and sign Fields or do they just light a small flame signing someone like Desmond Ridder.

Who they sign will tell me if they truly believe in AR or not

Or draft a guy like Jackson Dart or the kid from Indiana !!

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

To say that Ehlinger is on the same level as Jones is ludicrous. I'm not wedded to Jones, but I do want an experienced, athletic, younger QB (mid to late 20s). How many of those can you name?

Not really considering how terrible Daniel Jones is. Bringing him in would be like bringing Wentz back. Only Wentz is more talented and was at least good at one point in time in his career.

To clarify - I'm not saying Ehlinger is any good. I'm saying that Daniel Jones is that bad.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Not really considering how terrible Daniel Jones is. Bringing him in would be like bringing Wentz back. Only Wentz is more talented and was at least good at one point in time in his career.

To clarify - I'm not saying Ehlinger is any good. I'm saying that Daniel Jones is that bad.

Daniel Jones is as much better than Sam Ehlinger as Lamar Jackson is better than AR.

I don’t want to sign Jones, but he’s objectively a HELL of a lot better than Sam Freaking Ehlinger.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Daniel Jones is as much better than Sam Ehlinger as Lamar Jackson is better than AR.

I don’t want to sign Jones, but he’s objectively a HELL of a lot better than Sam Freaking Ehlinger.

Talentwise yes, but performance wise he's not. Jones had 1 maybe close to average season in a contract year, but otherwise he's been a shit show. He's so bad that NYG ran him out of town and took at ~$20M cap hit to do so w/ absolutely nothing in return. Like I said earlier, bringing in Jones would be like bringing in a worse version of Wentz.

And yes I fully realize that we need someone better than Ehlinger backing up/competing w/ AR. Like most of us on here I actually think Bean is much better than Ehlinger and said numerous times that Bean should have been on the roster rather than Ehlinger.

[IndyNorm]

Just for fun I prorated Ehlinger's and Jones' career stats to a 17 game season and here's what you get (rounded to the nearest whole number):

Jones: Passing - 64% completion %, 3,593 yards, 17/12 TD/Int ratio. Rushing - 537 yds, and 4 TDs. Also, 12 fumbles/yr

Ehlinger: Passing - 63% completion %, 3,247 yards, 17/17 TD/Int ratio. Rushing - 493 yrd, 0 TDs. 11 fumbles/yr



So objectively speaking Jones is slightly better than Ehlinger. Not leaps and bounds like some of you think he is. And again I'm not trying to prove how "good" Ehlinger is b/c he clearly isn't. I'm justing showing you bad Daniel Jones actually is.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Just for fun I prorated Ehlinger's and Jones' career stats to a 17 game season and here's what you get (rounded to the nearest whole number):

Jones: Passing - 64% completion %, 3,593 yards, 17/12 TD/Int ratio. Rushing - 537 yds, and 4 TDs. Also, 12 fumbles/yr

Ehlinger: Passing - 63% completion %, 3,247 yards, 17/17 TD/Int ratio. Rushing - 493 yrd, 0 TDs. 11 fumbles/yr



So objectively speaking Jones is slightly better than Ehlinger. Not leaps and bounds like some of you think he is. And again I'm not trying to prove how "good" Ehlinger is b/c he clearly isn't. I'm justing showing you bad Daniel Jones actually is.

Here are your under 30 alternatives...should they be available. Darnold (doubtful), Wilson, Lance, Rush, Fields, Mac Jones, Daniel Jones.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Here are your under 30 alternatives...should they be available. Darnold (doubtful), Wilson, Lance, Rush, Fields, Mac Jones, Daniel Jones.

Given the situation, without thinking/researching much... Isn't Fields the most intriguing?

He's the closest 1:1 with AR. He can obviously do the run game stuff, and his completion percentage is beyond what AR has displayed yet.

If we're talking about motivation... A 26-year-old, similar style athlete/player who just had a pretty decent showing with a more competent roster filling in for Wilson.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Here are your under 30 alternatives...should they be available. Darnold (doubtful), Wilson, Lance, Rush, Fields, Mac Jones, Daniel Jones.

Slim pickings for sure. Of the players you listed and assuming Darnold is unavailable I would go w/ Fields or Rush. The rest are pure garbage. If I have to pick one of those 4 I would say Mac Jones, but that's only b/c we could give Dam shit about it when he comes into the game and sucks.

Of the UFA QBs I would pick Mariota. He's not under 30, but at 31 isn't ancient. And he played really well this year when he had to step in for Daniels.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Given the situation, without thinking/researching much... Isn't Fields the most intriguing?

He's the closest 1:1 with AR. He can obviously do the run game stuff, and his completion percentage is beyond what AR has displayed yet.

If we're talking about motivation... A 26-year-old, similar style athlete/player who just had a pretty decent showing with a more competent roster filling in for Wilson.

Has a more decorated college resume and played in one of the worst weather stadium/divisions in the NFL