Quenton Nelson (G-ND) Rd #1 Pick #6

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Ballard wouldn't be e traded down if he had gotten Norwell. Then he would have taken Chubb.

I don't know man, that was a pretty good deal. Jets got a rookie QB, if they play him they could have a bad year and that could be a high pick. And if we don't trade down, then the browns might take Barkley and then the Giants take Chubb bc the Giants were not interested in Mayfield and the Browns would know they could get him at 4.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I can't fault Ballard for trading down there. He couldn't have predicted that two QB needy teams would not take QBs and one of those teams would take Chubb. That said, even I can't argue that having Chubb would've been better than having Nelson, Smith, Turay, Wilkins, and a 2nd round pick in 2019 which will likely be Top 50. An elite pass rusher is still likely a need, but the Colts will have 3 picks in the Top 64, and likely at least 2 in the Top 50 to get that player in 2019. To me, it's a fact that the Colts will be a better team moving forward as a result of that trade. I'd listen to a counterargument, but I don't think a cogent one can be made.

As soon as Elway signed Keenum, it became a real possibility he would NOT take a qb.

Originally Posted by Indiana V2

As much as I've seen Colts staff and NFL draft experts talk up Nelson I sure hope he works out, hopefully he's not another Tony Manderich.

Manderich actually was pretty decent here, not saying he wasn't a bust being drafted number two over all.

[VeveJones007]

Interesting comment from Ballard here:

But Ballard was thrown a curveball with this question: What if pass rusher Bradley Chubb had not been chosen one pick earlier by the Denver Broncos?

“There would have been a discussion,” Ballard said. “But (Nelson’s) ceiling is higher.”

Depends on how you look at it. I would agree that Nelson's ceiling is HOF, while Chubb's is more likely to be multi-year all-pro.

In terms of total impact on winning/losing? I'd go with Chubb.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Interesting comment from Ballard here:



Depends on how you look at it. I would agree that Nelson's ceiling is HOF, while Chubb's is more likely to be multi-year all-pro.

In terms of total impact on winning/losing? I'd go with Chubb.

Most multiyear All-Pros end up in the HOF.

[FatDT]

It doesn't matter. We picked Nelson so of course the story is going to be that they still would've taken the guy that ended up taking.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Depends on how you look at it. I would agree that Nelson's ceiling is HOF, while Chubb's is more likely to be multi-year all-pro.

In terms of total impact on winning/losing? I'd go with Chubb.

A lot of what I heard about Chubb made him sound like an excellent player, but not the dynamic pass rusher you would hope for. More hard working and good across the board than dynamic. Seeing the high risk, high reward picks Ballard favored it makes sense to me that he may also see it that way. With that said, I agree - Chubb should have the greater impact due to position.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Interesting comment from Ballard here:



Depends on how you look at it. I would agree that Nelson's ceiling is HOF, while Chubb's is more likely to be multi-year all-pro.

In terms of total impact on winning/losing? I'd go with Chubb.

We don'twin without Luck and Nelson is responsible for keeping Luck on the field, while Chubb is not. Therefor I disagree.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

As soon as Elway signed Keenum, it became a real possibility he would NOT take a qb.

Case Keenum is not a viable long term solution at QB. If Elway's plan is to bounce from patch to patch at the QB position, he likely won't have a job for very long. He and Gettleman both made potentially career killing decisions.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Most multiyear All-Pros end up in the HOF.

Source? Forgive me if I don't just take your word for it.