was Deflate Gate somehow debunked and I missed it?

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by VeveJones007

Several scientists said that it easily could have been natural causes due to the cold weather.

I seem to remember several other scientists saying no, it wouldn't have caused that much of a change in ball pressure. I also remember the Pats doing a bunch of shady shit that innocent people don't do when they're under investigation.

[VeveJones007]

Originally Posted by FatDT

I seem to remember several other scientists saying no, it wouldn't have caused that much of a change in ball pressure. I also remember the Pats doing a bunch of shady shit that innocent people don't do when they're under investigation.

Yep, everything each of us said is true. Like the political environment from the last ten years, people will cherry pick the “facts” that support their predetermined conclusion.

[omahacolt]

The narrative did change at some point.

But they were hit by the league. They were guilty. Period

[DrSpaceman]

The same thing happened with bountygate. The Saints tried to make it seem like all a vendetta against them and turned it into an anti-Goodell tirade to gain favor with some fans and some in the media

They were still guilty though too, no matter how much they whine about it.

[FatDT]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

The same thing happened with bountygate. The Saints tried to make it seem like all a vendetta against them and turned it into an anti-Goodell tirade to gain favor with some fans and some in the media

They were still guilty though too, no matter how much they whine about it.

It seems like Goodell is universally hated enough that any scandal can at least get fuzzy if enough people blame it on him.

[DrSpaceman]

Originally Posted by FatDT

It seems like Goodell is universally hated enough that any scandal can at least get fuzzy if enough people blame it on him.

Well he is just as much of a douche and power hungry as those he goes after. Its like the classic South Park argument of picking between the douche and the turd sandwhich

[falloutboy14]

1) their ball boy brought the ball bag after being checked by refs into the bathroom for a time I can't recall how long.

2) the refs stated that when checking psi, the numbers for each team all the same.

3) when psi was measured with all balls, colts balls were very similar, cheaters balls had much larger variance. Suggesting they were tampered with.

4) Tom Brady destroyed his cell phone.

5) people believe what they want.

[Butter]

I think the thing Pats fans and the talking heads miss out on, is that much of the punishment was a result of the way Brady and the organization acted during the investigation.