AR to miss minicamp with injury to AC Joint in Throwing Shoulder

[Brylok]

They *should* have taken Baker Mayfield when Cleveland dumped him and we got Matt Ryan instead. Baker wanted to come to the Colts, too. And here we are now...

[apballin]

He’s done, Trey Lance 2.0

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by apballin

He’s done, Trey Lance 2.0

This is actually a really good comparison. Minimal experience in college, all world talent, but unable to stay healthy enough to develop that talent.

AR's injury definitely sucks. Was hoping (as I'm sure we all were) that AR would make some significant strides w/ a healthy offseason. Suppose we'll be finding out whether or not Jones' immense struggles at NYG was mainly due to surrounding talent or not.

As far as drafting Arch:

- He has 3 years of eligibility remaining, no monetary needs for himself or his family, plenty of NIL money coming in even if that weren't the case, and a family history of not leaving college early. So it's unlikely he'll be in the draft until at least 2027 if not 2028. Maybe if he wins a national championship and the Heisman in '25 and/or '26 then he comes out early, but anything short of that then my guess is he doesn't.

- Even if Arch does leave for the draft in '26 the Colts will probably not be bad enough to be in position to draft him. I suppose another 2022 implosion could happen, but that's pretty unlikely.

Morocco Brown no longer being with the Colts is interesting timing, given the AR injury. It's barely June...

Definitely interesting. I wonder if there's been a rift between Ballard and Brown w/ Ballard shifting to drafting more based on performance rather than solely based on physical traits.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Brylok

They *should* have taken Baker Mayfield when Cleveland dumped him and we got Matt Ryan instead. Baker wanted to come to the Colts, too. And here we are now...

That’s true but if I remember correctly, no one here wanted Baker at the time.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

That’s true but if I remember correctly, no one here wanted Baker at the time.

That's right. I mentioned him once, quickly got shot down, and we moved on. Nobody was making a case for him here.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Brylok

That's right. I mentioned him once, quickly got shot down, and we moved on. Nobody was making a case for him here.

Yeah, there wasn't much support either here or elsewhere for us to trade for Baker. In hindsight it definitely looks like bringing him in would have been the best move. IMO though he would have struggled here w/ our OL being such a shit show that year (to be fair almost anyone would have), which would have likely turned into a short stay similar to the one he had in Carolina.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Originally Posted by Brylok

They *should* have taken Baker Mayfield when Cleveland dumped him and we got Matt Ryan instead. Baker wanted to come to the Colts, too. And here we are now...

That particular decision was Jim Irsay's. Jim really, really wanted Matt Ryan as QB.

Actually I think that a lot of the QB1 decisions over the last few years have been made by Irsay...which I don't think is surprising or that unusual. I believe there are many owners that get involved in the QB1 decision if that position is unsettled.

Each NFL team is valued at a minimum of 4 billion dollars. The QB1 position is usually the face of the franchise, someone who may command a $40 million per year contract (currently half the teams in the league pay a QB $40 million per year). So not surprising that a owner will want to be involved in the process or ultimately make the final decision.

And I think this is one reason why Jim graded Ballard on a curve...because Jim was making the QB1 decision.

And with Jim's passing...someone else will be making the QB1 decisions going forward.

[albany ed]

I actually think that DJ will win 10 or 11 games as the Colts QB. But maybe, just maybe it's more of a hope than a projection.

Go Colts.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by albany ed

I actually think that DJ will win 10 or 11 games as the Colts QB. But maybe, just maybe it's more of a hope than a projection.

Go Colts.

If he can be a game manager, he could do that. I think he could be better for us than Wentz, because he will be less likely to play hero ball.

[albany ed]

Aside from the QB position, I think the Colts remaining 54 are better than the other 3 AFC South teams. Would you agree? disagree?