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In a vacuum, sticking him out there to learn is the best method, in my opinion. l If you're worried about him losing confidence or whatever, I'd say that hasn't got the mettle you want in your QB, anyway.

That said, I don't think the roster is anywhere close to as bad as a lot of fans think. If they think we can compete with Minshew at QB, I'd expect Richardson on the bench longer. I would think they'd believe winning week-to-week trumps the benefit of live game experience for Richardson.

Now, if Minshew is just straight trash ...... put the kid in, and expedite the process.


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When Peyton Manning was a rookie in 1998, the Colts went 3-13. In a game against the Patriots, they were getting routed by a score of 29-0 in the 4th quarter. Manning asked the Colts' offensive coordinator if he could come out of the game. Bruce Arians, the Colts QB coach at the time, said l "F--k no, get back in there. We'll go no-huddle, and maybe you'll learn something. You can never ask to come out of a game, unless you're injured. You're our leader ...... act like it."

Manning proceeded to lead the Colts to a touchdown drive right after that exchange with Arians, avoiding the shutout ...... the final score was of the game was 29-6, and Manning clearly proved to be the leader that the Colts needed him to be from then on.



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It makes sense to put AR out there to learn quickly as long as it’s behind a line that can allow him to learn correctly and not one that speeds up his clock, makes him over rely on his feet, and / or puts him at an increased injury risk. Play calling can help with that a decent amount, but the team needs to make sure the line has its shit together before putting AR out there. Ballard needs to find a better starting RG and add some better depth / competition.

Until the OL has its shit together I’d start GM and slowly work AR on. I wouldn’t throw him out there day one because of the line. You can’t go backwards without the narrative being he sucks, so let the line prove itself first. I personally have little confidence in any of them at this point.
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When Peyton Manning was a rookie in 1998, the Colts went 3-13. In a game against the Patriots, they were getting routed by a score of 29-0 in the 4th quarter. Manning asked the Colts' offensive coordinator if he could come out of the game. Bruce Arians, the Colts QB coach at the time, said l "F--k no, get back in there. We'll go no-huddle, and maybe you'll learn something. You can never ask to come out of a game, unless you're injured. You're our leader ...... act like it."

Manning proceeded to lead the Colts to a touchdown drive right after that exchange with Arians, avoiding the shutout ...... the final score was of the game was 29-6, and Manning clearly proved to be the leader that the Colts needed him to be from then on.



THE GAME: l https://www.jt-sw.com/football/boxes...1998-02-ind-ne



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When Peyton Manning Wanted to Be Pulled From a Blowout, Bruce Arians Refused

(By Mike Florio)

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...rians-refused/

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Manning came to the pros fundamentally ready. He'd had a childhood raised by a NFL QB, started 45 games in college, and was a tireless student that studied and prepared for each and every game. Richardson has only 13 games of experience, has some mechanical flaws that need to be corrected.

There's not just one way for a QB to be handled when entering the NFL. However, if the Coach says start him in game 1, I'm cool with that. I'm a fan, not a coach.
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I hope he starts week 1, he can lean on his athleticism early on
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It makes sense to put AR out there to learn quickly as long as it’s behind a line that can allow him to learn correctly and not one that speeds up his clock, makes him over rely on his feet, and / or puts him at an increased injury risk. Play calling can help with that a decent amount, but the team needs to make sure the line has its shit together before putting AR out there. Ballard needs to find a better starting RG and add some better depth / competition.

Until the OL has its shit together I’d start GM and slowly work AR on. I wouldn’t throw him out there day one because of the line. You can’t go backwards without the narrative being he sucks, so let the line prove itself first. I personally have little confidence in any of them at this point.
I wouldn't overlook the replacement of Strosser with Sparano at OL coach as a big fix for the O-Line.

But until I actually see it on the field for four or so games before starting Richardson.
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I want to start the new era as quickly as possible. If he falters and turns out not to be the guy, it will definitely bring out all those wishing him to fail just so they can say I told you so. I made it perfectly clear he was not my choice, but ain't no way in hell I root for him to fail. I would much rather eat a giant plate full of crow for being wrong about him than I ever would just to say I told you so. Lord knows the kid is definitely gifted and intelligent. If Steichen can get him playing to his ability, Good Lord they would unleash a beast. Why would anyone want anything less. Throw him in there and let him get baptism by fire.
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I hope he starts out of the gate, but at the very least you can't have him just holding a clipboard. At least get him some Taysom Hill type plays in.
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if he can learn the offense, play the fucker.


if he can't learn the offense, play the fucker and maybe draft another guy.
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No question he will learn the offense. Guy is bright and gets football, Mariucci did one of his mash ups with AR and loved how he broke down plays. Steichen is going to be a very serious teacher for Richardson. He doesn't fuck around. He wanted Richardson and I gotta believe Richardson will learn. The real unknown is how he handles adversity, as he will have a shit ton of it. I do like that he manned up and talked to the press after his worst games. And he has had a ton of it in his life and seems to have done quite well. Seems like a good guy to root for, which is really nice. Looking forward, as we all are, to watch the next few years and see where he ends up. I'm hoping he becomes a billionaire, like Irsay said he could.

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I hope he starts out of the gate, but at the very least you can't have him just holding a clipboard. At least get him some Taysom Hill type plays in.
See I’m totally against this.. either put him in or let him sit fuck the gadget play bullshit you learn nothing from that
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