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Cause for concern? Sure. But tape is more important than anything else. If his tape looked like Trevor Lawrence's where he was missing gaping holes in zone coverage because he couldn't tell when his receiver was going to be in that hole, I'd say avoid drafting him. Instead, Stroud's tape is littered with things like his beautifully placed and timed seam ball to the RB against Cover 2 vs. Georgia where Stroud hit his RB in stride for an easy 37 yard TD. That isn't something a player with below average processing ability could do.
You keep ripping on Lawrence, but there is not one NFL team who would take Stroud or your boy Mac Jones over him. There is not one QB in this draft anyone would take over Lawrence.

You keep defending Jones because he didn't have good coaching this past year, same could be said for Lawrence in his rookie year. Lawrence finally got a good HC and flourished in his 2nd year.

Time to bite the bullet dam.
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You keep ripping on Lawrence, but there is not one NFL team who would take Stroud or your boy Mac Jones over him. There is not one QB in this draft anyone would take over Lawrence.

You keep defending Jones because he didn't have good coaching this past year, same could be said for Lawrence in his rookie year. Lawrence finally got a good HC and flourished in his 2nd year.

Time to bite the bullet dam.
He will never admit anything. I have a better chance of hitting the Powerball 3 weeks in a row.
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You keep ripping on Lawrence, but there is not one NFL team who would take Stroud or your boy Mac Jones over him. There is not one QB in this draft anyone would take over Lawrence.

You keep defending Jones because he didn't have good coaching this past year, same could be said for Lawrence in his rookie year. Lawrence finally got a good HC and flourished in his 2nd year.

Time to bite the bullet dam.
Luck went in Lawrence's favor considerably last year, and yes, Pederson did well to create a lot of half field reads and easy concepts for Lawrence to execute. He still hasn't shown he can throw with anticipation or make a full field read, and he's been stuck at the same development since his freshman year in college. As I've said many times, the athleticism and arm strength will mask his deficiencies at times, but a smart talented defense will force him to stay in the pocket and make good reads and throws to beat them, and when they do that, he breaks down and his team loses.

I know who I'll be rooting for to succeed if Stroud is a Colt and Lawrence remains a Jaguar. Seems you and others here want Lawrence to succeed because of me, would you also want Stroud to fail if the Colts draft him?
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Luck went in Lawrence's favor considerably last year, and yes, Pederson did well to create a lot of half field reads and easy concepts for Lawrence to execute. He still hasn't shown he can throw with anticipation or make a full field read, and he's been stuck at the same development since his freshman year in college. As I've said many times, the athleticism and arm strength will mask his deficiencies at times, but a smart talented defense will force him to stay in the pocket and make good reads and throws to beat them, and when they do that, he breaks down and his team loses.

I know who I'll be rooting for to succeed if Stroud is a Colt and Lawrence remains a Jaguar. Seems you and others here want Lawrence to succeed because of me, would you also want Stroud to fail if the Colts draft him?
No, I'm not that guy. If the Colts get Stroud, I will be rooting for Stroud to succeed at a high level and beat Lawrence's ass. It's not about that. It's about admitting the truth and accepting the fact, nothing more.
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No, I'm not that guy. If the Colts get Stroud, I will be rooting for Stroud to succeed at a high level and beat Lawrence's ass. It's not about that. It's about admitting the truth and accepting the fact, nothing more.
I admit the truth and accept the fact that Lawrence can not throw with anticipation or make a full field read. May he never learn those skills.
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I admit the truth and accept the fact that Lawrence can not throw with anticipation or make a full field read. May he never learn those skills.
You denied it when I said he scored an 18. Now you move the goalposts and explain it away. You’re insufferable. And his score says he might be borderline retarded.
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You denied it when I said he scored an 18. Now you move the goalposts and explain it away. You’re insufferable. And his score says he might be borderline retarded.
I said I wanted to see some level of proof of it. That was provided. When I saw that, I said it doesn't make sense with the tape. I'm not trying to "explain it away", I'm saying his tape shows anticipation and excellent processing, which is the opposite of that score. The creator of the test said the leaked numbers are wrong, not me. So take that for what it's worth. All this stuff coming out about Stroud right at the end of draft season really seems like some team trying to get Stroud to fall.
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No, I'm not that guy. If the Colts get Stroud, I will be rooting for Stroud to succeed at a high level and beat Lawrence's ass. It's not about that, it's about admitting the truth and accepting the fact, nothing more.



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Dam says that I'm the only one here of that persuasion.

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