2023 Draft QBs

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Agreed. If there's a test that shows Levis is better than Stroud at anything then it's obviously total BS and should be discarded from the player evaluations.

I didn't say anything remotely close to that, I was comparing the data we have on scores to how the QB in question played on tape. Are you really going to try to argue that Will Levis with his 26 turnovers and a less than 2:1 TD-INT ratio in the last 2 seasons was a better decision maker based solely on film than the CJ Stroud, who torched the #1 defense in college football for 41 points and had a 7:1 TD-INT ratio over the last 2 seasons? You can, I guess, it's just a really baseless argument.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

The misinformation was that Gates was healthy at the pro day, which caused no one to draft him. There were teams considering drafting him that year.



Stroud used his legs when he had to and put up 41 points on a team that averaged 10.9 points allowed in its other 14 games, and put his team in position to win the game 44-42 had the kicker not shanked the field goal attempt into the Atlantic Ocean. On the final drive to get them in FG range he had 2 or 3 crucial 1st down converting runs. It's not a thing he's done often because why would you when your WRs are Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Jaxson Smith-Njigba, Marvin Harrison Jr., and Emeka Egbuka?

Yes, I watched the championship game.

But he likes to stay in the pocket. Would he be open to running more in designed plays? Would he like to play in that system? They are probably finding that out now on his visit.

Incidentally, Lance Zierling has some connections to Houston, he got both their first round picks correct last year. He says they are split between Anderson and Stroud. That Anderson has a perfect score for them. It will likely come down to ownership who has the say on a QB or not.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I didn't say anything remotely close to that, I was comparing the data we have on scores to how the QB in question played on tape. Are you really going to try to argue that Will Levis with his 26 turnovers and a less than 2:1 TD-INT ratio in the last 2 seasons was a better decision maker based solely on film than the CJ Stroud, who torched the #1 defense in college football for 41 points and had a 7:1 TD-INT ratio over the last 2 seasons? You can, I guess, it's just a really baseless argument.

Why are your panties all in a bunch? I agreed with you.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Why are your panties all in a punch? I agreed with you.

Your message came off as very facetious (I may have read it incorrectly) and said a thing I don't even agree with. Your claim, as I read it, was essentially that Levis can't be better at anything than Stroud. Levis certainly has the stronger arm of the two. In the context of only referring to decision making, I can see how that would be a non-facetious agreement.

[CletusPyle]

It will be interesting to see how well Stroud plays behind a bottom 5 offensive line in Houston...certainly won't be what he is use to at Ohio State!

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

It will be interesting to see how well Stroud plays behind a bottom 5 offensive line in Houston...certainly won't be what he is use to at Ohio State!

They seem to be set on passing on him. Hopefully they maintain that resolve.

[Dewey 5]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Yes, I watched the championship game.

But he likes to stay in the pocket. Would he be open to running more in designed plays? Would he like to play in that system? They are probably finding that out now on his visit.

Incidentally, Lance Zierling has some connections to Houston, he got both their first round picks correct last year. He says they are split between Anderson and Stroud. That Anderson has a perfect score for them. It will likely come down to ownership who has the say on a QB or not.

Texans should take Anderson. He is the best football player in this draft & they will easily be in position next year for either Caleb Williams or Drake Maye & both those guys are way, way better than any qb in this draft.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Dewey 5

Texans should take Anderson. He is the best football player in this draft & they will easily be in position next year for either Caleb Williams or Drake Maye & both those guys are way, way better than any qb in this draft.

This is why I hope the Colts get a shot at Anderson.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

They seem to be set on passing on him. Hopefully they maintain that resolve.

Yes, I have seen those rumors...I don't buy it, I think they will take Stroud or Young, whichever one the Panthers pass on. Now I am seeing rumors that the Lions are going to trade up to #3 and take Richardson, leaving the Colts to take Levis. It would be the first time the first 4 picks are all QBs?

[ukcolt]

Anderson is not the best player after the QB's in my opinion, that's either Carter or Tyree Wilson, in terms of who is going to be taken with the 3rd pick. The best player in this draft is likely to be Bijan Robinson the RB from Texas, but the chances of him being taken that high are very slim.