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Old 04-07-2023, 09:28 AM
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The reason Stroud and Young picked up the fewest yards with their legs is because they both have deadly accurate arms, something Levis and Richardson both lack.
It's easier to be accurate when you aren't running for your life!
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Old 04-07-2023, 09:34 AM
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It's easier to be accurate when you aren't running for your life!
Levis and Richardson weren't running for their lives when they were throwing against air at their pro days.
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Levis and Richardson weren't running for their lives when they were throwing against air at their pro days.
In 2022 Levis completed 65.4% which was 26th nationally, Stroud was 20th nationally with 66.3%, and Young was 37th 64.5%. Considering how much better Alabama and OhioState's OL are, I don't see a real accuracy concern unless you are equally concerned ab out the other two!
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Put Levis behind the Bama and OSU line with the same receivers and all the teams would be tripping over their dicks to get the #1 pick.
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In 2022 Levis completed 65.4% which was 26th nationally, Stroud was 20th nationally with 66.3%, and Young was 37th 64.5%. Considering how much better Alabama and OhioState's OL are, I don't see a real accuracy concern unless you are equally concerned ab out the other two!
Levis' biggest concern IMO is a lack of touch. Everything comes out as a fastball. Comes from his footwork. He was working with a good QB guru in the offseason and did show some improvement on his pro day especially throwing to his left.

I think some of the Wentz comparisons come from that pigeon toe throwing and lack of touch (also bc he is white and a similar size and he runs). Wentz couldn't fix his issue, Allen did, does he have the work ethic to do it?

He was also hurt last season including a turf toe which kills your mobility and your throwing depending on the leg.
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Levis' biggest concern IMO is a lack of touch. Everything comes out as a fastball. Comes from his footwork. He was working with a good QB guru in the offseason and did show some improvement on his pro day especially throwing to his left.

I think some of the Wentz comparisons come from that pigeon toe throwing and lack of touch (also bc he is white and a similar size and he runs). Wentz couldn't fix his issue, Allen did, does he have the work ethic to do it?

He was also hurt last season including a turf toe which kills your mobility and your throwing depending on the leg.
I listened to the Panthers' QB coach do a film study on Levis (in the other thread if you haven't seen it). He says a lot of this ^^. His arm is very impressive and he can make throws with little wind-up when pressure is in his face. He also processes his reads fine but is able to, for example in the video, skip the open underneath out route and instead fire from the opposite hash to the numbers on a 10-yard hitch for a good gain.

However, he mentions that it's one of the biggest concerns about him as well. Because of the strength and talent, he makes some bad decisions as well as missing some throws even without pressure. As McCown says, you have to find out if he has a governor on this Ferrari or are you going to be one of those guys that's always going to fire a cannon.

For me, the Wentz comparison is about the mechanics and inconsistent accuracy + the toughness + the really strong arm that can lead to both awesome plays and bad decisions. It's like that awesome throw Wentz made against Arizona right before he was clobbered... that's great. But it also came in a package deal that included all the other shit he did that drove us nuts.

Depending on if he takes to coaching, Levis gives me the same worries.
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Depending on if he takes to coaching, Levis gives me the same worries.
This is the most important thing, as Wentz has proven to be uncoachable. If Levis is open to coaching and willing to do whatever it takes to be the best, then he is light years ahead of Wentz, who thought that god was his QB coach.
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Richardson improved a great deal as the year went on. He seems like a bright young man who has had some incredibly rough times in his young life. Nobody can say a bad thing about the man (not the same can be said for Levis). I think it sounds like he is coachable. I'm hoping we throw the dice and take a chance with this kid.
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It's easier to be accurate when you aren't running for your life!
Both did constantly though. Watch almost any game of Stroud and specifically the Texas or Tennessee game for Young.
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