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Old 01-25-2023, 11:06 PM
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They were awful.

They didn't have to give up, they got their asses kicked in almost every game that they played.

They were the antithesis of the team that won their division, the Washington Redskins. The Giants literally scored less than half of the points that the Redskins scored that year (the Giants scored 267 points, the Redskins scored 541 points.)

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Took a look at their schedule Jaff linked, and yeah they were bad. But I think the '22 Colts were worse. We won 1 more game (although also played 1 more game), but the '83 Giants had 3 fewer 20 point losses, worse loss was 21 points vs. 35 for us, and they didn't set any NFL blown lead records like the Colts did. Also, they're last 3 losses were by 4, 5, and 9 points vs. 17, 28, and 1 (to the 2nd worst team in the league). So it looks like they didn't actually give up at the end of season like the Colts' players did.

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Took a look at their schedule Jaff linked, and yeah they were bad. But I think the '22 were worse. We won 1 more game (although also played 1 more game), but the '83 Giants had 3 fewer 20 point losses, worse loss was 21 points vs. 35 for us, and they didn't set any NFL blown lead records like the Colts did. Also, they're last 3 losses were by 4, 5, and 9 points vs. 17, 28, and 1 (to the 2nd worst team in the league). So it looks like they didn't actually give up at the end of season like the Colts' players did.



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You said that you were too young to remember the '83 Giants. And so you asked me, and I told you. I remember them, and watched all of their games here in New York State with my own lying eyes. They were awful, and anybody who advocated that the Giants were well on their way to a long and prosperous run with their new head coach when the season ended in December would have been viewed as somebody who needs some major psychiatric treatment.

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You said that you were too young to remember the '83 Giants. And so you asked me, and I told you. I remember them, and watched all of their games here in New York State with my own lying eyes. They were awful, and anybody who advocated that the Giants were well on their way to a long and prosperous run with their new head coach when the season ended in December would have been viewed as somebody who needs some major psychiatric treatment.

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Fair enough, and as always I appreciate your response and insight. I was just trying to make the point that it looks and sounds like the '83 Giants were a really bad team whereas the '22 Colts were also a really bad team who also gave up under Saturday. Which IMO should make Saturday not qualified to be our head coach going forward.
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Which one of you guys started the petition. Shawn Ward, show yourself.
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Fair enough, and as always I appreciate your response and insight. I was just trying to make the point that it looks and sounds like the '83 Giants were a really bad team whereas the '22 Colts were also a really bad team who also gave up under Saturday. Which IMO should make Saturday not qualified to be our head coach going forward.
My conviction is that is exactly WHY he will be the coach. I am convinced they set about with a plan to suck and suck bad.
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Fair enough, and as always I appreciate your response and insight. I was just trying to make the point that it looks and sounds like the '83 Giants were a really bad team whereas the '22 Colts were also a really bad team who also gave up under Saturday. Which IMO should make Saturday not qualified to be our head coach going forward.

Daniel Jones FA. He looked good against the Colts.

Any one who was getting paid and quit on the team should get cut. No coach is going to turn those people around.

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Daniel Jones FA. He looked good against the Colts.

Any one who was getting paid and quit on the team should get cut. No coach is going to turn those people around.
What QB doesn't look good against the Colts?
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What QB doesn't look good against the Colts?
He moved well, and he was putting the ball on the numbers. He runs well, which he would need if he signed with the Colts
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He moved well, and he was putting the ball on the numbers. He runs well, which he would need if he signed with the Colts
He's a good athlete, no argument from me there. My point being that you shouldn't judge a QB based on their performance against the Colts, since every QB has one of if not their best game against us. In fact, I would say you should completely exclude his performance against the Colts this year since the Colts had given up by that point.

How he performed against his division rivals would be a much better gauge than how her performed against the Colts.

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