2022 NFL Draft thread - Day 2 discussion - Rounds 2 and 3

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

David Ojabo is a Michigan pass rusher with an Achilles tear. In other words, he's Paye and Dayo rolled into one. He has to be the pick!

In all seriousness though, hoping for Raimann, an Edge they like (preferably not Ojabo), or a trade down at 42, though trade downs seem to be getting bad value this year. Drafting a WR high doesn't make a lot of sense, and with how trades have gone this year, 122 should've been enough to go from 42 to 32 to pick up the 5th year option if they liked a QB as a franchise guy, so I doubt they're high on Willis (don't blame them) or Corral.

If they come out of Day 2 with an Edge and an OT, that's a win. If that's accomplished while also trading down and picking up more picks, even better. IMO there's more value on Day 3 at WR and TE than there is at Edge and OT.

Don't be too surprised if we take Ojabo if he's there. Ballard has shown that injuries don't seem to concern him much when drafting, and he definitely prioritizes long term over short term when drafting (which in the long run is probably a good thing).

I don't know much about Raimann, but I kind of get a Bjorn Werner feeling from him. As good as Ballard is at drafting linemen though if we do pick him then it's probably a good sign.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Best player available. I trust Ballard. I agree our greatest need is offensive line but I am thinking of this team as a defensive powerhouse. I would love Ojabo to be our pick. Instead of trying to out offense all of these great QBs lets just kick their ass with a defense that never lets up. I am not much of a scout on these people so I am not saying that he is the best player, if Ballard drafts him I will believe that however.

I would question an Ojabo pick because an Achilles rupture puts his speed and explosiveness, two of his best assets, into question. Before the injury, Ojabo may well have been a top 15 pick, but there's a reason the injury is causing a slide.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

Best player available. I trust Ballard. I agree our greatest need is offensive line but I am thinking of this team as a defensive powerhouse. I would love Ojabo to be our pick. Instead of trying to out offense all of these great QBs lets just kick their ass with a defense that never lets up. I am not much of a scout on these people so I am not saying that he is the best player, if Ballard drafts him I will believe that however.

Yeah, I may not be on board with the pick right now, but like you said, if Ballard drafts him at 42, then I will not second guess him.

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I would question an Ojabo pick because an Achilles rupture puts his speed and explosiveness, two of his best assets, into question. Before the injury, Ojabo may well have been a top 15 pick, but there's a reason the injury is causing a slide.

I hear you but I am not sure that the Colts see it that way. They seem to think that with new techniques and rehab the explosiveness will return by year two (if the player makes some goals in his rehab-goals that should already be known). Still a long shot. So many receivers that are highly rated still available.

[nate505]

I'm on the McBride bandwagon. Yeah, I know there's lots of other needs and I probably won't be upset with whoever the Colts draft, but TE is definitely one of them. Ryan will be far more lethal with a good one, and McBride is also a good blocker that will help with the run game.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

I hear you but I am not sure that the Colts see it that way. They seem to think that with new techniques and rehab the explosiveness will return by year two (if the player makes some goals in his rehab-goals that should already be known). Still a long shot. So many receivers that are highly rated still available.

but with paye, dayo, ngkaoue, buckner already here.... I would prefer someone that can possibly put us in contention this or next year. I like what has transpired this offseason and with ryan being towards end of his career, these next two years might be worth really taking a shot. but what the hell do I know?

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by rcubed

but with paye, dayo, ngkaoue, buckner already here.... I would prefer someone that can possibly put us in contention this or next year. I like what has transpired this offseason and with ryan being towards end of his career, these next two years might be worth really taking a shot. but what the hell do I know?

Most of us agree with you, but we all know that Ballard doesn't operate that way. For better or worse he will take who he has rated as the highest long term impact mostly regardless of position and short term impact. If it works out that the player is ready to play at a need position then great, if not then so be it. So if he has Ojabo rated higher than any of the WRs/TEs/OTs left on the board then he'll probably take Ojabo.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Most of us agree with you, but we all know that Ballard doesn't operate that way. For better or worse he will take who he has rated as the highest long term impact mostly regardless of position and short term impact. If it works out that the player is ready to play at a need position then great, if not then so be it. So if he has Ojabo rated higher than any of the WRs/TEs/OTs left on the board then he'll probably take Ojabo.

yeah I know. from what I read about him I wouldnt hate the pick and we could end up with a killer D in next couple years. I appreciate ballards approach to build and keep the future in mind, but there comes a time when you need to just go for it, maybe the 'go for it' is next year...

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Ironshaft

Where I am sitting right now, my priority order:

OT Bernhard Raimann, Central Michigan
WR Christian Watts, North Dakota State
WR George Pickens, Georgia
TE Jelani Woods, Virginia
WR Alec Pierce, Cincinnati

Protecting Matt Ryan still needs to be priority #1 with a close priority #1A being opening holes for Jonathan Taylor.

While I am provisionally okay with starting Pryor at LT, the need for a swing tackle and/or someone to push Pryor to being his best is huge.

The Colts obviously did not believe Pryor was the lock-down, no question successor at LT or they would have given him a longer contract. He might develop into that but he is not that now.

Ryan is the type of guy who can manufacture plays with lesser talent at WR and TE.

Grabbing OT in the 2nd if the Colts believe Raimann can be that 10 year starter and then going WR and TE in the 3rd and 4th rounds can work well with Matty Ice.

Pickens has some negatives attached to his personality. Supposedly been enabled a lot and his personality reflects it. I doubt they pick him. Not with guys just as good and better personalities.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I would question an Ojabo pick because an Achilles rupture puts his speed and explosiveness, two of his best assets, into question. Before the injury, Ojabo may well have been a top 15 pick, but there's a reason the injury is causing a slide.

Achilles and knee repair have come a long way in the last 20 years. A good surgery and diagnosis would likely ease those concerns. Still I doubt they take him, just won’t put it past Ballard if he is there.