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Old 08-25-2019, 10:33 AM
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I think a mediocre talent QB can run Reichs offense, and Frank will make a few minor adjustments to shadow Jacoby's strong assets. Are we going to win a Super-Bowl, or even make the playoffs? Doubtful, but I am a Colts fan and we can only cheer what is out there. 0-16, 8-8 or 3-13 doesn't matter. Jim, unlike Bob Irsay has proven he will spend money to win. He wants a dynasty more than he wants more money. Ballard has done a tremendous job building this roster to play with an elite QB, or a mediocre QB. Tampa won a SB with Brad fucking Johnson. They did it with a dominating team in every aspect but QB.
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I think a mediocre talent QB can run Reichs offense, and Frank will make a few minor adjustments to shadow Jacoby's strong assets. Are we going to win a Super-Bowl, or even make the playoffs? Doubtful, but I am a Colts fan and we can only cheer what is out there. 0-16, 8-8 or 3-13 doesn't matter. Jim, unlike Bob Irsay has proven he will spend money to win. He wants a dynasty more than he wants more money. Ballard has done a tremendous job building this roster to play with an elite QB, or a mediocre QB. Tampa won a SB with Brad fucking Johnson. They did it with a dominating team in every aspect but QB.
Yeah more and more I believe Ballard and Reich are the exact guys you would want at the wheel right now. I don't think I have ever been this high on a Colts Defense. There are playmakers at every level of that D, and on a couple levels there might be 3/4 of them. If they can stay healthy I think this is a D where you don't have to force bad passes in 3/8 situations that go the other way, throw it OOB and let the D get it back.

Sadly because of some prior horrible decisions at the administrative and coaching levels we as a fan-base of become conditioned that you have to have a 1st ballot HOF QB to win in this league- your TB example is spot on and look at Baltimore with Flacco. Are we on that level yet, probably not but I am not sure we aren't real close now. Healthy, Darius Leonard may be a Lewis or Brooks type of iconic player that elevates the whole team to greatness.
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Yeah more and more I believe Ballard and Reich are the exact guys you would want at the wheel right now. I don't think I have ever been this high on a Colts Defense. There are playmakers at every level of that D, and on a couple levels there might be 3/4 of them. If they can stay healthy I think this is a D where you don't have to force bad passes in 3/8 situations that go the other way, throw it OOB and let the D get it back.

Sadly because of some prior horrible decisions at the administrative and coaching levels we as a fan-base of become conditioned that you have to have a 1st ballot HOF QB to win in this league- your TB example is spot on and look at Baltimore with Flacco. Are we on that level yet, probably not but I am not sure we aren't real close now. Healthy, Darius Leonard may be a Lewis or Brooks type of iconic player that elevates the whole team to greatness.
It's not only the QB position but constantly drafting guys for them to throw to. The best weapon you can give a QB is an outstanding defense.
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It's not only the QB position but constantly drafting guys for them to throw to. The best weapon you can give a QB is an outstanding defense.
Yes and I am thrilled to say that this D, while very very young and raw, looks like it could emerge as a unit that dominates the game. Tuary, man that guy has Mathis speed off the edge and if Houston can do what he's got a hell of a book of proof of in the past off the other edge, with DL just dominating the 2nd level and a nice array of speed and size on the back end (QW might make a few bonehead plays but that guy has range and can swallow a WR up)- we should be looking at TO's like a mofo this year.

I really hope we hear Jabal gets back this week, could use some additional depth on the edge. I finally saw a little bit from Banagu last night, showed a little strength with some push into the pocket. I think the interior is a bit underrated as well and that Autry has the potential to be talked about in the mold of Gnata or Sapp by the end of the season.
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It's not only the QB position but constantly drafting guys for them to throw to. The best weapon that you can give a QB is an outstanding defense.

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The quintessential example of that would be probably Trent Dilfer, and the 2000 Ravens.






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I think a mediocre talent QB can run Reichs offense, and Frank will make a few minor adjustments to shadow Jacoby's strong assets. Are we going to win a Super-Bowl, or even make the playoffs? Doubtful, but I am a Colts fan and we can only cheer what is out there. 0-16, 8-8 or 3-13 doesn't matter. Jim, unlike Bob Irsay has proven he will spend money to win. He wants a dynasty more than he wants more money. Ballard has done a tremendous job building this roster to play with an elite QB, or a mediocre QB. Tampa won a SB with Brad fucking Johnson. They did it with a dominating team in every aspect but QB.

Yep Nick Foles is a perfect example.
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Yep Nick Foles is a perfect example.
FYI, I could be wrong be every time the Colts played Foles when he was at QB, they lost.
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FYI, I could be wrong be every time the Colts played Foles when he was at QB, they lost.
Could be right. IDK. But he has never started more than 11 games in his career. He has started a total of 44 games in 7 years . As a starter he has a 26-18 record.

He's an average QB that has been in some pretty good situations. But hedid win a SB so he does have the mentality to take the pressure
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