Colts v packers

[HoosierinFL]

Games over thread but that was a TD catch to win at the last second I can’t believe they ruled incomplete. Bullshit. I like that Bean kid

[Hoopsdoc]

That was a terrible terrible call. Not only was that a catch, it was a touchdown catch.

I like Bean as well but the Colts clearly don’t. At least not as a quarterback. They clearly like Leonard more, although I’m not sure why.

[Hoopsdoc]

Also, it doesn’t bode well for Jelani Woods making the team that he’s playing on the final play of the 2nd preseason game.

That’s a shame because he’s got talent.

[ChaosTheory]

I don't feel nearly as bad about rolling with Jones as I expected in the beginning. That said, I want AR starting. I liked how both looked and both have better numbers if AD didn't fuck them on a play each.

So tiebreaker is the fact that AR is 23yo and still growing, ceiling is sky high, the running dynamic which is not on display in preseason, and the fact that he's had a good overall camp specifically without turnovers.

Side notes..

-Warren looks good

-OL + JT + Giddens should be nasty

-OL needs to shore up pass pro inside: Goncalves mauls in the run, needs head out of ass on pass rush stunts.

-AD Mitchell will kill me... The PIs after burning guys is great... Drive killers due to JV level retarded shit will keep his ass standing next to Wayne.

-Woods is a tough break. Numbers game may get him cut, but he's got talent to be scary. He scored that TD, too.

-Grim Reaper is sniping our guys the past couple of weeks. Fuck.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

I don't feel nearly as bad about rolling with Jones as I expected in the beginning. That said, I want AR starting. I liked how both looked and both have better numbers if AD didn't fuck them on a play each.

So tiebreaker is the fact that AR is 23yo and still growing, ceiling is sky high, the running dynamic which is not on display in preseason, and the fact that he's had a good overall camp specifically without turnovers.

Side notes..

-Warren looks good

-OL + JT + Giddens should be nasty

-OL needs to shore up pass pro inside: Goncalves mauls in the run, needs head out of ass on pass rush stunts.

-AD Mitchell will kill me... The PIs after burning guys is great... Drive killers due to JV level retarded shit will keep his ass standing next to Wayne.

-Woods is a tough break. Numbers game may get him cut, but he's got talent to be scary. He scored that TD, too.

-Grim Reaper is sniping our guys the past couple of weeks. Fuck.

Jones' play today made me feel better about him, but AR looked pretty accurate, and threw some very nice balls that were called back on penalty. I thought Bean looked more exciting than Leonard. Would love to find a wat to keep him as a project.

Granted, the Packers played no starters. But AR made accurate passes. Jones made more bad passes, IMO. His deep ball accuracy stinks.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Jones' play today made me feel better about him, but AR looked pretty accurate, and threw some very nice balls that were called back on penalty. I thought Bean looked more exciting than Leonard. Would love to find a wat to keep him as a project.

Granted, the Packers played no starters. But AR made accurate passes. Jones made more bad passes, IMO. His deep ball accuracy stinks.

Good call, that's another thing. From a lay perspective just watching videos... him lack of arm strength seems to make him compromise his mechanics due to the effort on deep balls. Otherwise, he's pretty accurate short to medium. Meanwhile, AR can flick his wrist the same on a 12-yard out as he does on a 40 yard bomb.

So, then you ask, would you rather miss some easy passes to Gidden like AR did today and hope he improves... or settle for Minshew-ball, hit all the short and medium stuff, but play against tighter coverage all the time because the defense doesn't fear you deep.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Good call, that's another thing. From a lay perspective just watching videos... him lack of arm strength seems to make him compromise his mechanics due to the effort on deep balls. Otherwise, he's pretty accurate short to medium. Meanwhile, AR can flick his wrist the same on a 12-yard out as he does on a 40 yard bomb.

So, then you ask, would you rather miss some easy passes to Gidden like AR did today and hope he improves... or settle for Minshew-ball, hit all the short and medium stuff, but play against tighter coverage all the time because the defense doesn't fear you deep.

WTF are you talking about? Daniel Jones 9.2 ypa vs Anthony Richardson 6.6 ypa. Also Jones hit just as many, or more long passes as AR.

it's not an easy choice, but it is the safest choice, for Steichen and Ballard....start Daniel Jones.

[Oldcolt]

Irsay, Steichen and Ballard will make this choice and I believe it will be AR. You draft a guy this raw you know there will be bad times. You need to be willing to ride them out if AR does his part and shows improvement. I think he has. A lot. Jones is only safe if you want to end up midpack.

[ChoppedWood]

I don't think the QB actually matters, and that sucks to say. To me, we have 3 of the same guy, all within a pretty narrow band of "meh" and probably would be a difference of maybe 3 games tops between Leonard, Jones, or AR as the QB- and my gut says we will definitely see all three as starters this year, and within the first half of the season. Which brings me to I guess a realization I guess if you want to call it that, about this team.

2 Pre-season games, 20 penalties- 20 fucking penalties. Huge yardage plays, negated by stupid fucking shit. AD Mitchell, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with this dude? Great, he apparently developed some hands, but in turn seems to have lost his fucking mind?

I think Ballard drafts shitty football players because he is obsessed with measurables vs just getting guys that can play ball (damn I hope that is not the case with Warren- he looks like a real football guy) and I don't think Steichen and his crew are any good at all at preparing the team. This team drops fucking balls, they jump offsides, they line up offsides, the hold constantly. It just seems like a very poorly developed and trained crew.

I was listening to the morning show mid week and they were talking about how there is ZERO intensity at all in these structured practices. They were almost mocking how laissez faire the entire camp has been.

So, I think we could have Peyton as QB, and we'd probably win 9 games with this structure. With AR, Danny Dimes and Leonard, I think the ceiling is probably 6 wins. THAT FUCKING SUCKS!


Add in all the fucking injuries, yeah I think we might be looking at 6 wins, and man 8 seems like a big stretch.

Shitcan the whole thing and start over!

[apballin]

JT looks great! Best call all day after 1 carry I was like ok get him the fuck outta there!!