2023 Draft QBs

[smitty46953]

According to S2, the 30-to-45 minute exercise is conducted on what The Athletic’s Matt Barrows in February described as a “specially designed gaming laptop and response pad that can record reactions in two milliseconds.” It measures how players process and make split-second decisions. “Anticipating, reading, reacting and adapting to the game are measurable skills,” the website offers.

Per the report, multiple sources around the league shared those scores for the two quarterbacks.

Furthermore, the article quotes one executive as saying Stroud's score raised a red flag about the quarterback.

“Stroud scored 18,” an executive said. “That is like red alert, red alert, you can’t take a guy like that. That is why I have Stroud as a bust. That in conjunction with the fact, name one Ohio State quarterback that’s ever done it in the league.”

As for the other top quarterbacks in this draft class, McGinn shared this.

Some other total scores in the class of quarterbacks this year were 96% for Fresno State’s Jake Haener, 93% for Kentucky’s Will Levis and Brigham Young’s Jaren Hall, 84% for Houston’s Clayton Tune, 79% for Florida’s Anthony Richardson and 46% for Tennessee’s Hendon Hooker.

While it is merely speculation at this moment as to a potential slide coming to Stroud, this could be the reason for the recent rumors that the Houston Texans are willing to trade out of the No.2 pick for any team wanting to make a deal.

https://www.si.com/nfl/titans/draft/...potential-fall


Little bit concerning ?

[rm1369]

Supposedly 80 and above is considered good. An 18 would take Stroud off my board in first two rounds. Hooker’s score is pretty disappointing as well. Article I read had a team exec quoted as saying a high score doesn’t guarantee success, but they’ve never seen someone with a low one succeed. It’s lying season, but considering what it’s intended to measure I can believe that statement. Levis or Richardson for me.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by smitty46953

According to S2, the 30-to-45 minute exercise is conducted on what The Athletic’s Matt Barrows in February described as a “specially designed gaming laptop and response pad that can record reactions in two milliseconds.” It measures how players process and make split-second decisions. “Anticipating, reading, reacting and adapting to the game are measurable skills,” the website offers.

Per the report, multiple sources around the league shared those scores for the two quarterbacks.

Furthermore, the article quotes one executive as saying Stroud's score raised a red flag about the quarterback.

“Stroud scored 18,” an executive said. “That is like red alert, red alert, you can’t take a guy like that. That is why I have Stroud as a bust. That in conjunction with the fact, name one Ohio State quarterback that’s ever done it in the league.”

As for the other top quarterbacks in this draft class, McGinn shared this.

Some other total scores in the class of quarterbacks this year were 96% for Fresno State’s Jake Haener, 93% for Kentucky’s Will Levis and Brigham Young’s Jaren Hall, 84% for Houston’s Clayton Tune, 79% for Florida’s Anthony Richardson and 46% for Tennessee’s Hendon Hooker.

While it is merely speculation at this moment as to a potential slide coming to Stroud, this could be the reason for the recent rumors that the Houston Texans are willing to trade out of the No.2 pick for any team wanting to make a deal.

https://www.si.com/nfl/titans/draft/...potential-fall


Little bit concerning ?

Cause for concern? Sure. But tape is more important than anything else. If his tape looked like Trevor Lawrence's where he was missing gaping holes in zone coverage because he couldn't tell when his receiver was going to be in that hole, I'd say avoid drafting him. Instead, Stroud's tape is littered with things like his beautifully placed and timed seam ball to the RB against Cover 2 vs. Georgia where Stroud hit his RB in stride for an easy 37 yard TD. That isn't something a player with below average processing ability could do.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Do you ever even consider that you might be wrong ??? About anything ???

Originally Posted by Dam8610

LOL, as if anyone here does that.

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I've done it, often.

I was wrong when I said that Case Keenum would have a longer and more prosperous career than Andrew Luck would.

I was wrong when I said that I believed that Carson Wentz would be a good, long-term solution at quarterback for the Colts.

I was wrong when I said that Jim Caldwell was an average head coach prior to the 2010 season ...... after seeing him defend himself in regard to his horrible time-out calls for the second time in one season (including a playoff game), I came to the conclusion that he was indeed a bad head coach.

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[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by rm1369

Supposedly 80 and above is considered good. An 18 would take Stroud off my board in first two rounds. Hooker’s score is pretty disappointing as well. Article I read had a team exec quoted as saying a high score doesn’t guarantee success, but they’ve never seen someone with a low one succeed. It’s lying season, but considering what it’s intended to measure I can believe that statement. Levis or Richardson for me.

That would be my expectation, similar to throwing against air. Looking good doesn't mean you'll look good in a game... but looking bad on air probably means you'll look bad in a game.

This entire offseason is new for me regarding QB's. Between having Manning/Luck for 21 seasons and then choosing vets the past several years... I've never felt the urge to study draft QB's like this.

So I don't know much about the S2 other than it tests processing and that it replaced the Wonderlic which tested recall. I'm curious to dig around and see how these scores have translated in the past.

But first reaction is... 18? Out of 100? Some of these guys got mid-90's and you got an 18? What is that about? OSU system?

[Oldcolt]

It tells me he looks great when he has all day to process. That isn't going to happen in the NFL. He has to make quick decisions. If this is true, pass on him.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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I've done it, often.

I was wrong when I said that Case Keenum would have a longer and more prosperous career than Andrew Luck would.

I was wrong when I said that I believed that Carson Wentz would be a good, long-term solution at quarterback for the Colts.

I was wrong when I said that Jim Caldwell was an average head coach prior to the 2010 season ...... after seeing him defend himself in regard to his horrible time-out calls for the second time in one season (including a playoff game), I came to the conclusion that he was indeed a bad head coach.

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Congratulations, that would make you the only one. Not sure I agree with your take on Caldwell, think you had it right the first time, average-above average head coach. Look at his record and how the Lions fell off after firing him.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

It tells me he looks great when he has all day to process. That isn't going to happen in the NFL. He has to make quick decisions. If this is true, pass on him.

You have an odd definition of "all day". You should really watch the tape.

[Spike]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

Cause for concern? Sure. But tape is more important than anything else. If his tape looked like Trevor Lawrence's where he was missing gaping holes in zone coverage because he couldn't tell when his receiver was going to be in that hole, I'd say avoid drafting him. Instead, Stroud's tape is littered with things like his beautifully placed and timed seam ball to the RB against Cover 2 vs. Georgia where Stroud hit his RB in stride for an easy 37 yard TD. That isn't something a player with below average processing ability could do.

You keep ripping on Lawrence, but there is not one NFL team who would take Stroud or your boy Mac Jones over him. There is not one QB in this draft anyone would take over Lawrence.

You keep defending Jones because he didn't have good coaching this past year, same could be said for Lawrence in his rookie year. Lawrence finally got a good HC and flourished in his 2nd year.

Time to bite the bullet dam.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by Spike

You keep ripping on Lawrence, but there is not one NFL team who would take Stroud or your boy Mac Jones over him. There is not one QB in this draft anyone would take over Lawrence.

You keep defending Jones because he didn't have good coaching this past year, same could be said for Lawrence in his rookie year. Lawrence finally got a good HC and flourished in his 2nd year.

Time to bite the bullet dam.

He will never admit anything. I have a better chance of hitting the Powerball 3 weeks in a row.