Official “no one cares enough to start a game day thread” game day thread

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Seems like Ballard got the best of that trade.

Are they even using Hines. Don't get why they won't give him reps.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

It was ultimately Ballards decision. He’s the damned GM.

And he’s 100 percent responsible for believing Pinter could play guard and Pryor could play left tackle.

Ryan wouldn’t have been so awful had he had at least average protection.

This notion that Frank was the problem all along when the team has absolutely fallen apart since he left is ridiculous.

So you are saying that Ballard decides the starting lineup? If that is so so then Frank is an even weaker ass punk than I thought.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

It was ultimately Ballards decision. He’s the damned GM.

And he’s 100 percent responsible for believing Pinter could play guard and Pryor could play left tackle.

Ryan wouldn’t have been so awful had he had at least average protection.

This notion that Frank was the problem all along when the team has absolutely fallen apart since he left is ridiculous.

See this is where it gets confusing to me. Ballard signs the guys. But he does not set the depth chart. That's a coach's job. Totally Ballard's fault for not getting a better LT in-house. Although it looks like Raimann and even Fries may work out.

But did they not see how bad he was in camp? Pryor had the job from day 1, no competition. Kelly was hurt to start the season so he couldn't play there. If he was such a liability why wasn't he benched sooner? I mean it took Saturday to come in and bench him.

I blame Ballard for signing him, but I blame Frank for continuing to play him.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Are they even using Hines. Don't get why they won't give him reps.

They use him on punts, kickoffs, and occasionally on offense as a receiver out of the backfield.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

See this is where it gets confusing to me. Ballard signs the guys. But he does not set the depth chart. That's a coach's job. Totally Ballard's fault for not getting a better LT in-house. Although it looks like Raimann and even Fries may work out.

But did they not see how bad he was in camp? Pryor had the job from day 1, no competition. Kelly was hurt to start the season so he couldn't play there. If he was such a liability why wasn't he benched sooner? I mean it took Saturday to come in and bench him.

I blame Ballard for signing him, but I blame Frank for continuing to play him.

Yeah this whole argument is an exercise in futility. Debating who is better/worse between Ballard and Reich is like choosing between a gremlin and a pinto. Both are shit cars and god forbid you have to rely on either one for transportation.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Yeah this whole argument is an exercise in futility. Debating who is better/worse between Ballard and Reich is like choosing between a gremlin and a pinto. Both are shit cars and god forbid you have to rely on either one for transportation.

But you could get a Gremlin with a V8. A better comparison would probably be a Vega.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

See this is where it gets confusing to me. Ballard signs the guys. But he does not set the depth chart. That's a coach's job. Totally Ballard's fault for not getting a better LT in-house. Although it looks like Raimann and even Fries may work out.

But did they not see how bad he was in camp? Pryor had the job from day 1, no competition. Kelly was hurt to start the season so he couldn't play there. If he was such a liability why wasn't he benched sooner? I mean it took Saturday to come in and bench him.

I blame Ballard for signing him, but I blame Frank for continuing to play him.

Raimann was being rotated in game one. That’s not what teams usually do at LT. I’d say Reich knew Pryor sucked but his two options were a shitty vet who had provided previous short term replacement level play or an overwhelmed 3rd round rookie who had only played the position for 2 years. And yes, Raimann sure as fuck looked overwhelmed in his initial action. Reich was trying to develop Raimann. See what he had. No live action isn’t the same as regular games. Neither is the limited preseason. Especially for communication on stunts and blitzes. Raimann started against Denver (under Reich) and sucked. If Reich had started Raimann playing like he did initially people would have been calling for him to be fired for that. Immobile QB and shit at LT, not exactly a recipe for success.

You want to know the reason for the constant slow starts? It’s this shit that Ballard constantly pulls - critical position given away to development. LT, DE, WR have all been recent victims of it.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

So you are saying that Ballard decides the starting lineup? If that is so so then Frank is an even weaker ass punk than I thought.

Yeah, I’m not saying Frank was perfect.

He wasn’t.

But he sure as hell wasn’t the main problem and the team has been objectively worse since he left.

That is not disputable.

I’m pushing back on this idea that, no matter how bad the team looks, or how it somehow manages to look worse every week, Frank was still somehow the problem.

He wasn’t.

He was never the problem and the results since he got fired prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

This team has been a laughingstock since he left.

[ChaosTheory]

The anti-Ballard and anti-Reich sentiments are two sides to the same coin. All this clamoring for a head on a pike is the wrong path. We shouldn't have canned Frank Reich. And we shouldn't can Chris Ballard.

It'll be the same kind of realization that we've had after nearly two months without Frank Reich if we were to do the same with Chris Ballard.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Yeah, I’m not saying Frank was perfect.

He wasn’t.

But he sure as hell wasn’t the main problem and the team has been objectively worse since he left.

That is not disputable.

I’m pushing back on this idea that, no matter how bad the team looks, or how it somehow manages to look worse every week, Frank was still somehow the problem.

He wasn’t.

He was never the problem and the results since he got fired prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

This team has been a laughingstock since he left.

I'm not saying that Frank was the problem, but rather that he was not the solution. Yeah maybe we go 8-9 with Frank still coaching, but that was going to be his ceiling.

Saturday was never going to be the solution anyway and that's a fact that we pretty much all agree on.