2021 NFL Draft thread - Day 2 discussion - Rounds 2 and 3

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Spike

Great post. LMAO.

I have it saved somewhere I tend to post every year during drive time

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by JAFF

That only works if the Browns have the same # of picks over the next two years. The Colts have 2 picks to Philly if Wentz works out? And how he plays will will determine which round?

You are comparing two different Philosophies, picks and multiple years. You cant use Cleveland to justify what Ballard should do for Indy.. Ballard must take a long term view, not a yearly view.

I think you're looking too deep into what I was saying. I was pointing out that the Browns didn't give up much to move up 7 spots: Nos. 59 and 89 for Nos. 52 and 113. Based on that we should have had enough capitol in this years draft to move up a couple of spots to at least draft Radunz without giving up too many picks.

Also, drafting an LT to protect the QB you just traded for would be for the long term. Signing some depth guys like Tevi and hoping they start performing at a starting caliber level isn't long term either.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

apparently you haven't watched Wentz play a lot !! When he starts getting hit he starts throwing to the wrong colored jerseys. I don't know why most posters think that Wentz is the next Luck.

And we all know that Luck getting hit a lot, which is what will happen with Wentz if the LT situation isn't fixed, worked out great

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

And we all know that Luck getting hit a lot, which is what will happen with Wentz if the LT situation isn't fixed, worked out great

Maybe someone from the Indy Indians should come and give sliding lessons

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Maybe someone from the Indy Indians should come and give sliding lessons

That would probably be more helpful than signing Tevi will be.

[Ironshaft]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

Does doubling down on DE mean he's given up on Banogo and Lewis,two of his worst draft picks ?

I don't think so.

The Colts now have nine guys on the defensive line that they have expended capital on in either high draft picks or free agency money:

Buckner
Stewart
Turray
Paye
Lewis
Odeyingbo
Muhammad
Banogu
Rochelle

On the Colts defense, they will typically have 8 defensive linemen active on game day with 9 on the roster.

Now the only competition for the bottom spots are undrafted street free agents (Brown, Stallworth, Cline, Wilson) or a low round pick (Windsor).

All part of Ballard's game plan. More competition.

[Ironshaft]

The thought I just had was that the Colts did pretty well a couple of years ago drafting two offensive linemen in the 1st and 2nd rounds of a draft: Quinton Nelson and Braden Smith.

My only hope is that the 2021 drafting of two defensive linemen: Kwity Paye and Dayo Odeyingbo, becomes anywhere near as successful.

We may not see much impact in 2021 but, hopefully, for 2022 and beyond it is a huge homerun.

Now I would like to see a depth OT, depth TE, depth WR and depth CB ideally.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Puck

Glad I decided to opt out of this crap tonight. More glad that Dam is still in melt down mode

I checked Colts.com to see who had the more ridicules posts. Its a toss up. Im disappointed in some of you for making it close.


In case some of you don't know. Ballard knows more than we do. Trust the process.

We went from a shit hole and a street pickup LT (playoffs) to a couple pass rushers from the AFCCG

I get it. Everyone has opinions. Just try to see the logic and mind set in this.

Ballard does not and will not draft for NEED. He says it ...he does it... One of these days you'll get that. It is ALWAYS BPA which is a winning mindset.

I have said many times that I dont expect a LT drafted when there are better players on the board. TBH. I thought CB or WR would be BPA at 54 and expected that pick.

We have a mobile QB now. Very comparable to Andrew Luck. Probably as close as we get without having the top pick in the draft this yr.

LT is important. BUT not at the expense of building a better TEAM

Ballard has a plan. trust it He's more right than anyone on here

Exactly, and he knows that everyone thinks highly of him so he gets cute trying to look like super GM thinking he’s gotta outsmart every body or reach on players when our biggest need was obvious

I would’ve rather seen him go with 2 offensive lineman

And that BPA shit is bullshit that’s why he trades back so much

So after free agency and the draft we are the same team minus our starting LT, the only improvement he made was Wentz this team isn’t any better then last year

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by apballin

Exactly, and he knows that everyone thinks highly of him so he gets cute trying to look like super GM thinking he’s gotta outsmart every body or reach on players when our biggest need was obvious

I would’ve rather seen him go with 2 offensive lineman

And that BPA shit is bullshit that’s why he trades back so much

So after free agency and the draft we are the same team minus our starting LT, the only improvement he made was Wentz this team isn’t any better then last year

Wentz is an improvement, that’s assuming a lot.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

apparently you haven't watched Wentz play a lot !! When he starts getting hit he starts throwing to the wrong colored jerseys. I don't know why most posters think that Wentz is the next Luck.

Wentz has never had a good Oline maybe his first yr. and he was in MVP talks then

This offense is going to look a lot more like it did when AL was here than it did with Rivers and obviously JB