How good is this defense?

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by southside asshole

I mostly agree.

I think the most glaring need for the defense is a good nose tackle type. You add a big nasty NT who requires consistent double-teams to the D-line, and we can start generating pressure rushing 4 out of our base cover zone, and actually cover some of that underneath stuff on 2nd and long, 3rd and long situations. As is it, we allow teams to convert on 3rd and long way too often over the middle of the field, because we have send LBs and DBs after the quarterback.

On offense, I'd like to see another consistent deep threat at WR. If we had another guy like Hilton who could pose a decision for opposing defenses on who to double-cover, with the line we have, this offense becomes almost impossible to stop.

I've gotta disagree. The interior pass rush has been the strength. We have gotten virtually nothing from the EDGE rush. Also the plan is, to eventually move Lewis inside.

However, the strength of the draft is inside rushers.

I'm fine with whatever Ballard decides to do. We need help on all levels of the defense and at WR.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by southside asshole

I mostly agree.

I think the most glaring need for the defense is a good nose tackle type. You add a big nasty NT who requires consistent double-teams to the D-line, and we can start generating pressure rushing 4 out of our base cover zone, and actually cover some of that underneath stuff on 2nd and long, 3rd and long situations. As is it, we allow teams to convert on 3rd and long way too often over the middle of the field, because we have send LBs and DBs after the quarterback.

On offense, I'd like to see another consistent deep threat at WR. If we had another guy like Hilton who could pose a decision for opposing defenses on who to double-cover, with the line we have, this offense becomes almost impossible to stop.

I think a dominating 3 tech is always better than the nt.

[FatDT]

I would take a Ngata in his prime over most 3 techs but he was a rare player.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman

How about Antonio Brown?

They are even old friends

That would be awesome, though I know its not likely to happen

No! dude fucking went awol and walked out on his team. Fuck that Diva BS.

[Pez]

Originally Posted by southside asshole

I mostly agree.



I think the most glaring need for the defense is a good nose tackle type. You add a big nasty NT who requires consistent double-teams to the D-line, and we can start generating pressure rushing 4 out of our base cover zone, and actually cover some of that underneath stuff on 2nd and long, 3rd and long situations. As is it, we allow teams to convert on 3rd and long way too often over the middle of the field, because we have send LBs and DBs after the quarterback.



On offense, I'd like to see another consistent deep threat at WR. If we had another guy like Hilton who could pose a decision for opposing defenses on who to double-cover, with the line we have, this offense becomes almost impossible to stop.

I'm probably going to get roasted for something stupid, but in a 4-3 there are just two tackles and two ends. I thought nt was a 3-4 kind of thing that lines up over center, or on the a gap to his shoulders?

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[Pez]

Originally Posted by Butter

No! dude fucking went awol and walked out on his team. Fuck that Diva BS.

Agree... after two superstars pull what appears to be diva shit, you have to wonder if Tomlin or Roethlisberger are the real divas, and everyone is just sick of their shit.

How would we feel if marvin and edgerrin sat out on purpose?

They are both acting like Josh McDaniels

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Pez

I'm probably going to get roasted for something stupid, but in a 4-3 there are just two tackles and two ends. I thought nt was a 3-4 kind of thing that lines up over center, or on the a gap to his shoulders?

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4-3 defenses have NTs, they're just typically not as big and more athletic than 3-4 NTs, and they typically aren't asked to 2 gap as much.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

4-3 defenses have NTs, they're just typically not as big and more athletic than 3-4 NTs, and they typically aren't asked to 2 gap as much.

Technically wrong. They are often asked to 2-gap. But the theory is that they are quick enough and stout enough to to split the gap, therefor requiring two blockers.

Hunt's numbers have gone down playing the NT, but anyone who watches him play can see how disruptive he is as splitting the gap.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Technically wrong. They are often asked to 2-gap. But the theory is that they are quick enough and stout enough to to split the gap, therefor requiring two blockers.

Hunt's numbers have gone down playing the NT, but anyone who watches him play can see how disruptive he is as splitting the gap.

A 3-4 NT is asked to 2 gap much more than a 4-3 NT, unless the 3-4 is coached by Wade Phillips.

[Chromeburn]

a 3-4 NT is asked to control the gap which means taking on double teams consistently, usually watching both A gaps. But they are looking to keep blockers off their LB's. They are space eaters and that is about it.

A tampa-2 NT is asked to split the gap. There is a difference. He is working upfield to disrupt the play and get into the backfield much. Omaha is correct your better and probably more important DT in this defense is the 3-tech. But you can have good DT's at both positions. Booger played the NT role for the Bucs a lot. There is a difference. But lots of 3-techs in this draft at the top, we should try to grab one considering the age of quality of our DT's. Your NT in this D wants to get upfield and also maintain gap integrity, meaning you don't want to allow lanes for the RB to squeak through.