Colts have no player over 30 years old

[Racehorse]

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What are your thoughts on this? Is it a positive or negative thing?

[Oldcolt]

My thoughts are we have done a shit job of developing players. Seven years into Ballards regime not one player was decent enough to keep over 30. For me this is an indictment of Ballard, every year he drafts high end athletes that are not football players betting that his coaching staff can develop them. They can't so 7 years into his regime there are no gristled veterans, only year after year of having lots of potential with young pups. He cannot draft corner backs to save his life, the best one on the team he didn't want because he was to small and had to be talked into it, he has developed zero pass rushers, tight ends or receivers of any note. I am feeling negative this Sunday morning.

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

My thoughts are we have done a shit job of developing players. Seven years into Ballards regime not one player was decent enough to keep over 30. For me this is an indictment of Ballard, every year he drafts high end athletes that are not football players betting that his coaching staff can develop them. They can't so 7 years into his regime there are no gristled veterans, only year after year of having lots of potential with young pups. He cannot draft corner backs to save his life, the best one on the team he didn't want because he was to small and had to be talked into it, he has developed zero pass rushers, tight ends or receivers of any note. I am feeling negative this Sunday morning.

I'd say it is more an indictment of Grigson than Ballard because Grigson was in charge of the drafts of these older players.

One of the oldest players is Ryan Kelly - he was part of the last Grigson draft class.

Who should have the Colts kept from that class besides Kelly? I guess Ridgeway?


1 18 Ryan Kelly
2 57 T. J. Green - currently playing in USFL
3 82 Le'Raven Clark - currently on Eagles practice squad
4 116 Hassan Ridgeway - rotational DT for a few teams - currently with Texans
4 125 Antonio Morrison - no longer playing football
5 155 Joe Haeg - cap casualty from this off season, has not signed with another team
7 239 Trevor Bates - no longer playing football
7 248 Austin Blythe - retired


And the prior year's draft:

1 29 Phillip Dorsett - currently on Bronco's practice squad
3 65 D'Joun Smith - no longer playing football
3 93 Henry Anderson - currently on the Panther's IR list - will not play this year
4 109 Clayton Geathers - currently a college assistant football coach
5 151 David Parry - no longer playing football
6 205 Josh Robinson - currently playing in IFL (indoor football league)
6 207 Amarlo Herrera - no longer playing football
7* 255 Denzelle Good - retired

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

My thoughts are we have done a shit job of developing players. Seven years into Ballards regime not one player was decent enough to keep over 30. For me this is an indictment of Ballard, every year he drafts high end athletes that are not football players betting that his coaching staff can develop them. They can't so 7 years into his regime there are no gristled veterans, only year after year of having lots of potential with young pups. He cannot draft corner backs to save his life, the best one on the team he didn't want because he was to small and had to be talked into it, he has developed zero pass rushers, tight ends or receivers of any note. I am feeling negative this Sunday morning.

If we draft 22 year olds, and Ballard has been here seven years, his oldest drafted players would not be 30 yet. Looks like Grigson is the one to point the fingers at.

[Oldcolt]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

If we draft 22 year olds, and Ballard has been here seven years, his oldest drafted players would not be 30 yet. Looks like Grigson is the one to point the fingers at.

You are technically correct. In a year or two you won't be. I hope you are correct about our pass rush. I can no longer muster any hope with this group, last two years did me in on having a glass half full. It is half empty until I see something different (Sunday maybe). I feel good about AR but it is hard for me to remember the last time we had a consistent pass rush. I cannot manage to get enthused about this team. I don't know if this is a rebuilding year, a transition year or are we actually trying to compete. I don't think the Colts know. A ton hangs on how good of a coach Steichen is. If we got lucky and he is exceptional, if he can put those athletes into positions where they can actually use their athletic abilities, in positions to succeed, all bets are off. Can he adapt to the players he has? I think so but we won't know that for sure for a while.

[ukcolt]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

A ton hangs on how good of a coach Steichen is..

How does that really matter? He is the Head Coach....the head coach basically does jack shit in terms of coaching, he is now organising everything, and his underlings are the ones who are doing the coaching. We need to hope he has hired some great coaches, to maximise the talents we have at our disposal.

This is the fundamental thing that bugs me about top offensive co-ordinators or defensive co-ordinators getting head coaching jobs. The job is entirely different, what they have proven as assistant coaches, has very little to do with what they will need to be able to do in a head coaching capacity. Can you organise players and staff, can you make the right calls in the tough game situations (Time Outs, challenges etc, things you have never done before), can you work with the GM and owner and agree on the roster management, are you able to cede control of the other side of the ball effectively and let that coach, coach. The fact that you might have been a QB whisperer in a previous coaching stint, doesn't really help if you are no longer the QB coach and dealing with the mechanics and coaching the QB's on a daily basis.

Having an experienced staff with a mix of young innovative coaches are what i believe make a good head coach.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

If we draft 22 year olds, and Ballard has been here seven years, his oldest drafted players would not be 30 yet. Looks like Grigson is the one to point the fingers at.

Math is hard.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Math is hard.

Its FUNdemental.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

My thoughts are we have done a shit job of developing players. Seven years into Ballards regime not one player was decent enough to keep over 30. For me this is an indictment of Ballard, every year he drafts high end athletes that are not football players betting that his coaching staff can develop them. They can't so 7 years into his regime there are no gristled veterans, only year after year of having lots of potential with young pups. He cannot draft corner backs to save his life, the best one on the team he didn't want because he was to small and had to be talked into it, he has developed zero pass rushers, tight ends or receivers of any note. I am feeling negative this Sunday morning.

Ballard's first draft pick here is currently 27. Clearly, you have no agenda.

[albany ed]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

My thoughts are we have done a shit job of developing players. Seven years into Ballards regime not one player was decent enough to keep over 30. For me this is an indictment of Ballard, every year he drafts high end athletes that are not football players betting that his coaching staff can develop them. They can't so 7 years into his regime there are no gristled veterans, only year after year of having lots of potential with young pups. He cannot draft corner backs to save his life, the best one on the team he didn't want because he was to small and had to be talked into it, he has developed zero pass rushers, tight ends or receivers of any note. I am feeling negative this Sunday morning.

If he's only been the draft pick guy for seven years, wouldn't't that mean that no draft picks made by Ballard have reached the age of 30?