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Old 11-19-2018, 05:06 PM
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Default Ryan Kelly “could miss a little time”

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Colts coach Frank Reich says starting center Ryan Kelly "could miss a little time" with his knee injury. Team will take a few days to decide the status. Could be week-to-week.


He’ll assuredly be missed in every game he sits out but I think anything that isn’t a season-ending injury has to be considered a win at this point.
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Old 11-19-2018, 05:26 PM
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Agreed, I am just glad his season is not done. Hopefully.
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Old 11-19-2018, 05:55 PM
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It sucks that he's injured. Hopefully not serious. Nothing good lasts forever.

Who is his replacement?
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Well I will just assume he is out for the season and be happy if that's not the case. Seems to be the way these injuries go
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It sucks that he's injured. Hopefully not serious. Nothing good lasts forever.

Who is his replacement?
Evan Boehm
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No telling what a "little time" means in regards to injuries. They aren't really revealing the severity of his injury or maybe they just have all the information just yet. As much as we need him I don't want him rushed back on the field until near 100% I say near 100% because most players are not 100% when we get this point of the season.
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If you listen to the coaches, this is a huge loss. They’ve been saying he’s playing better than any other lineman. He also makes all the protection calls.

That really sucks.

I’m guessing the sackless streak ends Sunday.
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1. Glad he is not out for the season. IF we figure out how to either steal the division from the Texans OR sneak into the playoffs as a wildcard, we will need him come Jan.

2. I would expect the Phins to run a lot of overload looks up the middle early this next week. Try to get the less experienced OC messed up and off balance. It would not surprise me to hear that a veteran like Glowinski might be calling the protections this week.

3. I don't know if I think that Haeg or Boehm is better as the OC. PFF graded Boehm on 12 snaps against the Titans with an "average NFL starter" grade. Since OC is out of position for Haeg, I don't know if that is better than what Haeg could deliver. BTW, PFF has Kelly as the 8th best graded OC this season.

4. PFF is also currently grade our OGs as the 8th best (Glowinski) and 12th best (Nelson) this season. And we have three OTs in the top 35 rated: Smith (27th), Castonzo (29th), and Clark (35th).

(NOTE: I know many of you don't like PFF scores and that is fine; I find them to be pretty accurate to my "eye" test and a lot of the former players / current commentators agree with them as well. I will continue to use them to backup my points. I don't want this to devolve into a "PFF sucks" fest so if you don't like the scoring, just move on.)

5. Losing Kelly is a big loss and while we will be "fine" for a game or three if needed, I hope he gets healthy quickly.

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1. Glad he is not out for the season. IF we figure out how to either steal the division from the Texans OR sneak into the playoffs as a wildcard, we will need him come Jan.

2. I would expect the Phins to run a lot of overload looks up the middle early this next week. Try to get the less experienced OC messed up and off balance. It would not surprise me to hear that a veteran like Glowinski might be calling the protections this week.

3. I don't know if I think that Haeg or Boehm is better as the OC. PFF graded Boehm on 12 snaps against the Titans with an "average NFL starter" grade. Since OC is out of position for Haeg, I don't know if that is better than what Haeg could deliver. BTW, PFF has Kelly as the 8th best graded OC this season.

4. PFF is also currently grade our OGs as the 8th best (Glowinski) and 12th best (Nelson) this season. And we have three OTs in the top 35 rated: Smith (27th), Castonzo (29th), and Clark (35th).

(NOTE: I know many of you don't like PFF scores and that is fine; I find them to be pretty accurate to my "eye" test and a lot of the former players / current commentators agree with them as well. I will continue to use them to backup my points. I don't want this to devolve into a "PFF sucks" fest so if you don't like the scoring, just move on.)

5. Losing Kelly is a big loss and while we will be "fine" for a game or three if needed, I hope he gets healthy quickly.

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I think their grading is too hard and they don’t always know responsibilities even though they BS they do. A complex deceptive offense like ours isn’t always clear. A play can devolve for a number of reasons, maybe a guy is covering for another guy bc he fucked up. The oline is such an interdependent unit, it’s not like a CB or WR you are evaluating. Although WRresponsibilities and reactions can get pretty complex. I know lots of guys do reference them now, I hear them talk about on NFL radio, but I still don’t trust them. For example Hernandez of the Giants is highly rated, but he sucks at picking up stunts and moving laterally, does it show up in the score? Nope. I’ve seen him mess up several times. Something is off there.
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I think their grading is too hard and they don’t always know responsibilities even though they BS they do. A complex deceptive offense like ours isn’t always clear. A play can devolve for a number of reasons, maybe a guy is covering for another guy bc he fucked up. The oline is such an interdependent unit, it’s not like a CB or WR you are evaluating. Although WRresponsibilities and reactions can get pretty complex. I know lots of guys do reference them now, I hear them talk about on NFL radio, but I still don’t trust them. For example Hernandez of the Giants is highly rated, but he sucks at picking up stunts and moving laterally, does it show up in the score? Nope. I’ve seen him mess up several times. Something is off there.
All of the arguements against PFF except Omaha's are fair and valid. I don't think they are the end all, beat all judge of performance and that someone ranked 75.4 is always better than someone ranked 71.7.

However, by and large, I often agree with them in general and that the numbers I see tend to match in accordiance with overall NFL stats or my eye test. I think they are one data point to help judge overall effectiviness of a player but not the sole judge.

So, we will agree to disagree. I place more weight on their numbers than many here and that is fine. I am just tired of Omaha's continued rants of "anyone who puts any credibility on them is an idiot" number. Get it, don't agree, let's just move on. Closed minded folks and all...

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