A few other things happen on Sunday

[Kray007]

Besides Kelly and Moore getting roster bonuses, the following things happen, per Overthecap.com:

DeForest Buckner gets a $1 Million roster bonus.
$6 Million of Braden Smith’s salary is guaranteed.
$1 Million of Shaq Leonard’s salary guarantees.
$19 Million of Quenton Nelson’s 2024 salary becomes guaranteed.

The last is the most interesting.

[Oldcolt]

We are committed to this man (Nelson), he better make a huge turn around.

[omahacolt]

i really thought there would have been movement with kelly or moore.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

i really thought there would have been movement with kelly or moore.

Nobody is going to offer more than a 6th round pick.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by Oldcolt

We are committed to this man (Nelson), he better make a huge turn around.

I'm not holding my breath. Ridiculous amount of money for guard. He got paid and has been on early retirement ever since. Big Fat Useless Q.

[Brylok]

They should have cut Ryan Kelly. Another lazy ass who got paid and did nothing since.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Brylok

They should have cut Ryan Kelly. Another lazy ass who got paid and did nothing since.

His infant daughter died. That probably has a lot to do with it.

[Mr. Session]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

His infant daughter died. That probably has a lot to do with it.

Should we give him another year to mourn?

I don’t mean to be tasteless but how much longer are people going to use this excuse?

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by Brylok

I'm not holding my breath. Ridiculous amount of money for guard. He got paid and has been on early retirement ever since. Big Fat Useless Q.

What's more concerning is if his struggles are due to back issues, which he had off and on in '20 and '21, and not the big contract flu.

Built in excuses at this point. As I recall, he wasn't good the year before, either. Got lazy after he got paid. He's not alone in that regard.

To be fair I thought he was pretty good in '21. Although there wasn't much drop off from Kelly to Pinter, so maybe it was more Nelson and Glow than Kelly. Either way he was horrible in '22. Quite possibly the worst OC in the league.

In the grand scheme of things his $1M roster bonus isn't that much, so maybe Ballard's waiting to release him until after he gets an OC in either the draft or FA.

[ukcolt]

I think it is fair to say from your assessment that you don't watch much football besides the Colts. Kelly admittedly wasn't at his best the past 2 seasons, but he was far from the worst C in the league. I know PFF can be taken with a pinch of salt, but his overall grades were:

2022 - 64.3 with 5 sacks and 3 penalties on 1092 snaps (136.5)
2021 - 56.9 with 3 sacks and 6 penalties 907 snaps (100.8)
2020 - 69.0 with 2 sacks and 1 penalty on 1007 snaps (335.7)
2019 - 73.0 with 1 sack and 6 penalties on 1018 snaps (145.4)
2018 - 74.5 with 1 sack and 4 penalties on 777 snaps (155.4)
2017 - 60.4 with 0 sacks and 0 penalties on 394 snaps (0)
2016 - 72.4 with 0 sacks and 3 penalties on 1018 snaps (339.3)
Overall (177.5)

The figures in brackets are the number of plays per major error (so a sack or penalty)

You can see from their grading, that he has not been to his usual standards the last two years, but this past season was an improvement from the year before. And his past two seasons the number of "mental" mistakes, so the sacks and penalties, have risen quite a bit.

This is a link of the PFF grades of all Centers for the last year. Kelly is ranked 16th.
https://seahawkswire.usatoday.com/ga...-rankings-pff/