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Old 09-14-2018, 07:14 PM
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Like Racehorse and Spike, I also alluded to the common opponent comparison in the game thread from last night.

Even though this is an obvious ultra-small sample size in regard to the Bengals 2 games against the Colts and the Ravens so far this season, I do believe that an Andrew Luck-quarterbacked team always has a "puncher's chance" to win any given game against any opponent ........ even if the rest of the team is average, or even below average.

It is similar to when the Colts had Peyton Manning between 1999 and 2010, and Bert Jones between 1975 and 1980.

The Colts won a bare minimum of 10 games for 11 out of 12 seasons between 1999 and 2010, and set the all-time record for the most consecutive 12-win seasons (7) between 2003 and 2009 with Manning behind center ........ and a good number of those teams were either average, slightly below average, or slightly above average outside of Manning.

With Bert Jones, the 1978 and 1979 Colts looked lost when he was sitting on the sidelines with an injured right shoulder, save for a historic upset of the Patriots on Monday Night Football in September of '78. When Bert was healthy again for a full season in 1980, he engineered the team to a 7-6 start after 13 games with a team that was considerably lesser that the 1975, 1976, and 1977 AFC East divisional champion teams. And Jones then proceeded to engineer a monumental 4th quarter comeback against the Bengals (from being down 31-6 to leading by a score of 33-31) in Week 14 before the referees robbed them of a win and an 8-6 record with an atrocious pass-interference call in the final seconds of said game.

Tom Brady is unquestionably an all-time great quarterback, but he never had the task of putting average teams on his back and taking them into title contention year in and year out, like Luck, Manning, and Jones did ........ it is somewhat reminiscent of the way that Wilt Chamberlain often did that in the early part of his career with the Philadelphia/San Francisco Warriors teams that he played for. Bill Russell won many more championships than did Chamberlain did (11 to 2), but he ALWAYS had a vastly superior team surrounding him, save for the 1966-67 and 1967-68 seasons when Wilt played for the Philadelphia 76ers.


Bert Jones, Johnny Unitas, Earl Morrall


Jim Harbaugh, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck
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