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Originally Posted by Brylok
The fact is, half of the (voting) population lost it's mind when a black man was elected twice. There was no way in hell they'd allow a woman to follow after that. They instead voted for a vulgar, unqualified, treasonous conman with literal neo-nazis in his administration. And they are proud of it. This will not end well. This country is screwed.
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If I'm going to fact-check the Trump Rationalizers here, have to also check: literal neo-Nazis? Referring to Bannon/Breitbart? I think you can tie Bannon to editorial support of alt-right philosophy, but he's not, for example, Milo Yiannopoulus (if you were referring to Bannon).
The treasonous label feels likely, given there are several uncontested ties between Trump-affiliated individuals and Russia. How much he knew/knows, though, I think is up for debate. I'd totally buy that Trump is more manipulatee than manipulator when it comes to his campaign's relationship with Russia. Still makes it likely he's, to some degree, treasonous. And it's no coincidence that Wikileaks coincided targeted leaks with the exact beats of his campaign on those days (Trump's advisors 100 percent coordinated with Wikileaks to strategically leak, which ties in with Russia's direct criminal act of obtaining the emails/info in the first place).
Can't argue vulgar and unqualified though.
The thing I don't get about this "WE GOTTA MOVE ON FROM OBAMA!" or "OBAMA RUINED THIS COUNTRY!" is that Obama objectively took one of the worst climates a President has ever inherited (economy in the tubes, unemployment trending toward Depression levels) and completely turned it around. Put the economy back in the black in a major way, reduced unemployment to an afterthought, handed Trump the keys to a DJIA (and I know, I know, the DJIA is a terrible marker of overall economic success, but just using an example since Trump loves to tie his impact to the Dow) knocking on the door of 20,000.
He did that, of course, while withdrawing troops from the clusterfuck Dubya left us in in the Middle East, restoring America's respectability on an international stage, and keeping America safe from mass-scale foreign terrorist attacks (because, of course, we ignore the crazy white American citizens who commit terrorist attacks at the business end of automatic weaponry in this country...)
FAR from perfect, and he did some really scary shit with furthering of the Patriot Act, took a foolish stance on Snowden, was caught spying on allies in a really dumb and obvious way, and was way too soft on corporate criminals throughout. But overall: I don't see the trash heap so many Trump supporters seem to witness.
Trump's campaign played on this fear that America was in the shitter, that we were in huge trouble, losing our jobs, unsafe, being taken advantage of, etc. And I think that fear campaign really got to people. So there must be something to that -- some legitimate fear he was tapping into that shouldn't be ignored. But I guess I just don't fully understand what that fear is, and would love if someone from the other side could explain just what Trump is "rescuing" us from.