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Originally Posted by Chromeburn
What trade value do you think he had? A sixth?
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In the right situation, I could see him having carried equivalent weight to a late 2 or early 3 last offseason. Not that he would've gotten a pick like that in a trade, more like how DJ Moore was used as a substitute for a 1st round pick by the Panthers.
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Originally Posted by Oldcolt
We will have to see how much glass AR is made of. Injuries happen. When they happen early in a career the pall of 'is this a view of the future' runs over it. Most of the time that is not the case. You liked Stroud better than AR but if my memory serves me I don't remember you ever, not even once, say that it was because AR was injury prone. To me AR wasn't injury prone then nor is he now. He has been unlucky and still has the mental and physical tools that seem perfect for a modern NFL QB. One last advantage AR has, and it is huge, is Steichen. I'll couch this in nobody really knows what will happen as we go forward. Fun to speculate though.
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He did have an injury history, and not a particularly light one, either. He has a Netflix documentary where he suffers the exact same injury that ended his season this year in high school, and he had a pretty bad knee injury at Florida in 2021. One of the areas that can severely impact a projection of a player is injury history, and it's nearly impossible to know if you're not in one of the 32 war rooms. All the tape in the world won't give you anything on a player's medicals, and that is a huge part of a player evaluation.
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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc
You don’t build culture by trading a four time all pro because you suspect he might not live up to his contract.
Thats not how any of this works.
These guys are human beings. They’re not just assets.
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Tell that to Howie Roseman. He'd offload a player like that in exactly the way I suggested so fast it would make your head spin. In fact, you don't have to hypothetically consider it, he did it with Carson Wentz.
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Originally Posted by IndyNorm
Or better yet we should have traded our 1st and Marlin Mack in '21 to jump ahead of the Cheats for Mac Jones.
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I'd prefer to trade up for Stroud in a scenario of hypothetical druthers, but Mac Jones is a great example of what a bad set of circumstances within a franchise can do to a good QB prospect, especially if they are more circumstance dependent. Couldn't have happened to a better franchise, but I feel bad for the kid.