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rcubed 06-27-2017 12:30 PM

should have made a HC switch....
 
"every head coach/starting quarterback combo won the Super Bowl within their first five years together or didn’t win it at all."

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2017/6/...together-colts



go away pagano.

HoosierinFL 06-27-2017 01:52 PM

Well the author is wrong that this data "makes the odds low" that Pagano + Luck will ever win a superbowl (because that's not how probability works), but it at least is some evidence that Pagano sucks.
For this and many reasons, Pagano should be fired.

omahacolt 06-27-2017 08:17 PM

pagano is maybe the worst coach i have ever seen.


it is a fucking travesty that he is employed by the colts

apballin 06-27-2017 09:57 PM

Dumbass stat considering coaches don't last 5 years anymore

Johanvil 06-28-2017 06:01 AM

Here we will be next February wondering why the hell Ballard didn't fuck Pagano off from the get go.

Pretty sure he knows deep inside he will regret it but I also think the call came from above to give him another year. He went along with it, maybe as a necessary evil, to have an excuse to fire him next off season.
As if there isn't enough evidence for Irsay to do just that.

FatDT 06-28-2017 09:19 PM

Pagano is the Donald Trump of NFL HCs.

Brylok 06-28-2017 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 16484)
pagano is maybe the worst coach i have ever seen.


it is a fucking travesty that he is employed by the colts

You've watched a lot of football, dude. I'm glad you put that 'maybe' in there. Chuck stinks but he isn't the worst.

sherck 06-29-2017 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 16571)
You've watched a lot of football, dude. I'm glad you put that 'maybe' in there. Chuck stinks but he isn't the worst.

Yeah, like I was thinking of Frank Kush who was the HC during the 1984 transition to Indy. HC of the Baltimore Colts in 1982 and 1983 and of the Indy Colts in 1984.

HC record? 11-28-1.

Or Rod Dowhower from 1985-1986 with a 5-24 record.

Or Lindy Infante from 1996 - 1997 with a 12-20 record.

Since then:

32-32-0 = Jim Mora, 1998 - 2001
85-27-0 = Tony Dungy, 2002 - 2008
26-22-0 = Jim Caldwell, 2009 - 2011
49-31-0 = Pags, 2012 - Present

While Dungy was the only true standout of the crowd, none were horrible. Of course, having Peyton or Luck as your QB covers over a TON of warts.

Hmmmm.....interesting.

088 - 135 - 0 = Indy Colts record prior to Peyton (39.5% win rate)
192 - 112 - 0 = Indy Colts record in Manning/Luck eras (63.2% win rate)

How much is a franchise QB worth again?

Cheers,

Racehorse 06-29-2017 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 16567)
Pagano is the Donald Trump of NFL HCs.

Trump won the big prize. Pagano? Not so much

Racehorse 06-29-2017 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 16593)

How much is a franchise QB worth again?

Cheers,

To a coach like Pagano? Remind me the details of his contract extension.


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