Originally Posted by testcase448 (Post 68370)

I watched about ten minutes in the last two years

Fix it, cut the political bullshit I'll watch this year..

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 68377)

I doubt people like you are really the type of person the nfl is wanting as a fan

Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 68382)

testcase is a typical Trump supporter. A low-IQ dumbass with no understanding of what America is about. He don't understand history. He don't understand freedom, or what it cost, or why it is so valuable. He understands cheering for his team and against the stuff he's told is bad, that's all. He is the exact "test case" for why the internet was a mistake, it gave a voice to unintelligent dipshits like him, dipshits that should just shut the fuck up. People like him are a cancer in our country. Unfortunately for the rest of civilized society there is no humane way to cut out a semi-sentient human tumor.

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 68377)

I doubt people like you are really the type of person the nfl is wanting as a fan

Originally Posted by testcase448 (Post 68385)

Care to compare degree(s)? That's plural monkey, you do understand the word plural right?
Mensa card?
Pay stubs?
Without people like me your welfare check would bounce but OK..
I cheer for the US over the kneeling sumbitches every day there snowflake.
BTW one of the degrees is History... one other is Engineering. You know science stuff. The minor(s) were business and economics

Show me where you have a clear idea of history I lack?

Freedom I get, that's why I'm an NRA member as an example. You you have a clue about LIBERTY dullard? The costs of it?

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 68392)

still a fucktard.

Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 68382)

Donald Trump is a, a racist bigot, .

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 68392)

still a fucktard.

Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 68393)

But but but he has a MENSA card!! He'll tell you all about it if you just ask him.

$10 says the "minions" he offhandedly likes to brag about are just the hourly employees at McDonalds, where is is assistant manager.

Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 68382)

Donald Trump is a liar, a criminal, an active and paid agent of hostile foreign nations, a rapist, a child molester, a racist bigot, a philanderer, a fake billionaire and failed businessman. And the NFL just caved to him. Pathetic.

Remember when Europe tried to appease Hitler? Didn't work then, won't work now. He and the GOP and ICE have already started the next holocaust. Sound unbelievable? Over the top? Look at the facts. Don't listen to their noise, watch what they DO.

Did you know we have Immigrant Detention Centers?

'So What? Maybe It Is a Concentration Camp'

Sexual, physical, and other abuse of immigrant children, including having toddlers represent themselves in court.

Building lots of detention centers as arrests are on the rise.

They tried to build one in Indiana, but gave up.

Maybe normal Germans felt this way when they first heard about these camps in places like Auschwitz.

testcase is a typical Trump supporter. A low-IQ dumbass with no understanding of what America is about. He don't understand history. He don't understand freedom, or what it cost, or why it is so valuable. He understands cheering for his team and against the stuff he's told is bad, that's all. He is the exact "test case" for why the internet was a mistake, it gave a voice to unintelligent dipshits like him, dipshits that should just shut the fuck up. People like him are a cancer in our country. Unfortunately for the rest of civilized society there is no humane way to cut out a semi-sentient human tumor.

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 68291)

Good question

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 68431)

Man it can hardly be said any better than that.

Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 68382)

Donald Trump is a liar, a criminal, an active and paid agent of hostile foreign nations, a rapist, a child molester, a racist bigot, a philanderer, a fake billionaire and failed businessman. And the NFL just caved to him. Pathetic.

Remember when Europe tried to appease Hitler? Didn't work then, won't work now. He and the GOP and ICE have already started the next holocaust. Sound unbelievable? Over the top? Look at the facts. Don't listen to their noise, watch what they DO.

Did you know we have Immigrant Detention Centers?

'So What? Maybe It Is a Concentration Camp'

Sexual, physical, and other abuse of immigrant children, including having toddlers represent themselves in court.

Building lots of detention centers as arrests are on the rise.

They tried to build one in Indiana, but gave up.

Maybe normal Germans felt this way when they first heard about these camps in places like Auschwitz.

testcase is a typical Trump supporter. A low-IQ dumbass with no understanding of what America is about. He don't understand history. He don't understand freedom, or what it cost, or why it is so valuable. He understands cheering for his team and against the stuff he's told is bad, that's all. He is the exact "test case" for why the internet was a mistake, it gave a voice to unintelligent dipshits like him, dipshits that should just shut the fuck up. People like him are a cancer in our country. Unfortunately for the rest of civilized society there is no humane way to cut out a semi-sentient human tumor.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 68517)

“Trump is Hitler”. “The next holocaust”.

Lol. You’re an idiot.

Newsflash-they’ve had immigrant detention centers in this country since the 1890’s. As long as we have immigration laws, we will have immigration detention centers. It’s not a Trump phenomenon, as much as you crave it to be.

I get you guys need a boogeyman to be afraid of, but at least do a little research before spouting off.

I think Trump is a moron and unfit to be president, but he’s no freakin Hitler. Comparing him to a real monster like Hitler trivializes the millions who died under his thumb.

Originally Posted by testcase448 (Post 68348)

you first... unzips pants in front of you

Originally Posted by testcase448 (Post 68348)

you first... unzips pants in front of you

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 68523)

Not everyone calls him Hitler.

Originally Posted by Butter (Post 68546)

He is clearly not Hitler, he is more Mussolini.

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https://voxpopulisphere.files.wordpr...-mussolini.jpg

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 68517)

“Trump is Hitler”. “The next holocaust”.

Lol. You’re an idiot.

Newsflash-they’ve had immigrant detention centers in this country since the 1890’s. As long as we have immigration laws, we will have immigration detention centers. It’s not a Trump phenomenon, as much as you crave it to be.

I get you guys need a boogeyman to be afraid of, but at least do a little research before spouting off.

I think Trump is a moron and unfit to be president, but he’s no freakin Hitler. Comparing him to a real monster like Hitler trivializes the millions who died under his thumb.

Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 68579)

I don’t think anyone that uses a Hitler reference is suggesting Trump is on par with “Hitler”. But let’s not forget that before Hitler was “Hitler” he was a democratically elected leader that used fear, nationalism, and scapegoating of minorities as tools to increase support among his followers, consolidate power, and crush his enemies. So no Trump is not “Hitler”, but he has damn sure shown many tendencies common in ruthless strongmen from the recent past - including German Chancellor Adolf Hitler.

I personally think the only thing standing between Trump and mass atrocities is our system of checks and balances. However, these are the same checks and balances both Trump and a not insignificant portion of the Republican Party (Nunes, etc) are working to actively undermine and erode. While the rest sit by silently. Trump is not just stupid and ignorant - he is dangerous. He is a man that is not driven by any type of moral compass. He is driven strictly by power and greed. He expects and rewards only blind loyalty to himself. While he is a blubbering idiot in most regards he is a master showman and he has both a massively powerful delivery platform (Fox “news”), religious cover (thanks evangelicals), and a more than willing and largely poorly educated and pissed off support base.

He is more than merely an idiot tarnishing the US presidency and the country itself. He is the embodiment of the worst and most dangerous impulses within us. He has access to the most destructive military capabilities the world has ever produced. He has a massive PR wing that spins ever topic in his favor. And fully 1/3 of our population follows him blindly and believes his every word. I’m sorry, but that is way more that just an idiot to be laughed at and disregarded.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 68581)

What a crock of shit, respectfully speaking. When Trump passes laws restricting the rights of and even imprisoning law abiding citizens for no other reason than their ethnicity, come find me.

When he sends out packs of goons to intimidate, harass, and even murder people like Hitler did, come find me.

When he uses the government to seize the property of groups he doesn’t like, I’ll be there protesting with you.

There is NO COMPARISON to what went on in 1930’s Germany to what is happening in this country now. It’s reckless fear mongering and hyperpartisanship to say otherwise.

Originally Posted by Butter (Post 68546)

He is clearly not Hitler, he is more Mussolini.

https://lgbtqnation-assets.s3.amazon...1/63951991.jpg
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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 68584)

Is your position that Trump is morally incapable of doing such things as rounding up minorities or his enemies?

Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 68584)

Is your position that our system of government would prevent such things from occurring?

Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 68584)

Or is it that the current population of the US would be incapable of sitting by while such atrocities occur?

Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 68584)

I’d like to understand. It is obvious Trump has not yet risen to the level of “Hitler”. Not sure how that’s even arguable. However your assertion that their is NO COMPARISON between events in 1930s Germany and the events in the current US appear to me to be naive.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 68588)

No. Trump isn’t the monster he’s made out to be. He was never a racist til he became president. Hell, he got awards from Jesse Jackson and the NAACP. He’s a loudmouth moron, for sure.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 68588)

Yes, of course. How exactly would he enact oppressive policies? Executive order? Who would follow those orders? No one. In this era of social media and instant communication, he’d never get away with it.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 68588)

Of course they wouldn’t. Trump actually lost the popular vote. How the heck are the citizens of this country, most of whom didn’t even vote for him, gonna sit around and let him get away with crap like that? Heck, a lot of republicans have turned on him already.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 68588)

Germany in the 1930’s was a shell of its former state. The loss of WW1 and the Versailles treaty left that country in absolute ruins. In that environment, Hitlers nationalism was elixir for the people. They were casting about for a scapegoat for their predicament and Hitler offered the perfect sales pitch for a desperate people.

That is about as far away from the current situation in this country as is possible.

So no, I refuse to entertain the thought that Trump is anything like Hitler in any way, other than they’re both heads of state.

Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 68600)

No, Trumps history of racism was not under scrutiny until he ran for for president. That doesn’t at all mean it didn’t exist. From the Trump companies being sued for racist housing policies to his embrace of birtherism there were plenty of examples of Trumps racist tendencies. Come on, do you think it’s a coincidence he has been the party of the racist element in this country since his campaign started? And even if you don’t believe Trump himself is a racist I don’t in anyway see how you can argue he hasn’t tactically aligned himself with racists and knowingly courted racist elements to his base. At best Trump is a tactical racist who fans the flames racism to further his causes.

My guess is you didn’t address the issue of being above rounding up his political enemies because the ironic “lock her up chants” from his political rallies leave little doubt to that capability.





I mostly agree here, although I don’t believe it’s nearly as guaranteed as you seem to think. Look no further than the rash of retirements from the GOP and the types of candidates they are running in many areas. Look at how far some candidates are willing to go to win their base. Here in Indiana the GOP primary boiled down to who loved and supported Trump more. And that’s supposed to give me comfort? Way to many Republicans stand idly by while Trump is actively trying to destroy the legitimate media, the Justice Department, and many of our intelligence services. Trumps message to his followers is you can only trust me the rest of the government is crooked. That doesn’t seem dangerous or dictator like to you? Who is going to save us - guys like Nunes? The media like Fox News?





His approval rating has been going up. The main republicans opposing him are either retiring or dying. Many of the new GOP candidates are more extreme and aligning themselves directly with him and his views. Your attitude is very common among Republicans I know - Trump is a laughable idiot. An embarrassment maybe, but not in anyway dangerous. They don’t like him, but he’s draining the swamp and exposing all the corruption in DC. That’s what Hannity and Fox News tells them.




As you point out things weren’t as bad as in post WWI Germany. Not even close. But economic dissatisfaction was a large factor for Trump. And the MAGA slogan itself is designed to play on nationalism and a desire for the “good old days”. Pretty similar themes to Hitler restoring Germany to its former glory, no? Trump has consistently proven that perception is more important than reality. Just because the social and economic situation isn’t as dire doesn’t mean many of the same factors and techniques aren’t in play.

I personally try to refrain from bringing Hitler into a discussion of Trump simply because it side tracks the conversation. My initial post on the subject was mainly meant to say that most don’t reference Hitler as a direct comparison but simply as an (admittedly extreme) example of the dangers of the types of actions employed by Trump and other men of his ilk. I just hope that too many don’t blow off his racist words and actions as media creations as you seem to. Same with his attacks on the press, justice department, and intelligence agencies. The idea that “good” people could believe it’s all just scare tactics by the liberal media is terrifying to me. They’ve already ratinoalized his pussy grabbing and racist remarks.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 68603)

The attacks on the media started with Obama. He tried to revoke Fox’s press credentials and would have succeeded had the rest of the media not thrown a fit about it. That’s far FAR worse than anything Trump has done. All he does is talk and tweet like a blowhard.

I hated when people said Obama was destroying America and I hate it when people comp Trump to Hitler. It’s hyerpartisan, identity politics bullshit.

This is the greatest country in the world, by a large margin. And all of us, left right and center, are far closer in beliefs than those in power would have us believe.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 68603)

The attacks on the media started with Obama. He tried to revoke Fox’s press credentials and would have succeeded had the rest of the media not thrown a fit about it.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 68603)

The attacks on the media started with Obama. He tried to revoke Fox’s press credentials and would have succeeded had the rest of the media not thrown a fit about it. That’s far FAR worse than anything Trump has done. All he does is talk and tweet like a blowhard.

I hated when people said Obama was destroying America and I hate it when people comp Trump to Hitler. It’s hyerpartisan, identity politics bullshit.

This is the greatest country in the world, by a large margin. And all of us, left right and center, are far closer in beliefs than those in power would have us believe.

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 68570)

Comparing him to any of the real demons of history is a stretch. He is an idiot, but pales in comparison to any of those fine upstanding citizens of the world. The two party system is a joke, and every time I see everyone going back and forth over "MY SIDE" is better I laugh, hard. Two headed snake that feeds the same body. When was the last time a Republicans shrunk the government, or Democrats truly helped the poor? I'll wait.

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 68612)

Trump admitted that he purposely tries to discredit the media so people won’t believe negative things about him.

Wake the fuck up

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 68662)

My distrust of the media pre-dates Trumps political career.

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 68290)

The nfl is clueless

I hope no player comes out anymore. Easy solution is to play the anthem before the players come out. Everyone can sit down and then do some kind of special entry to get the crowd fired up

The nfl always finds ways to complicate shit