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FatDT 03-06-2018 03:57 PM

2018 NFL Free Agents (tampering period starts 3/12/18)
 
The Combine is over. Seems like we'll get Chubb or Barkley but who knows. Hard to target players when FA is a big question. It's not a strong FA year, which sucks since we have so much cap room. But there should still be some good players available. List your guys here.

My interest list:

RB
Leveon Bell
Carlos Hyde

WR
Allen Robinson
Jarvis Landry (no trades though)
Donte Moncrief
Kendall Wright

OL
Andrew Norwell
Nate Solder
Justin Pugh
Josh Sitton
Cam Fleming
Jack Mewhort

DE
Alex Okafor
Kony Ealy

DT
Dontari Poe
Sheldon Richardson
Star Lotulelei
Dominique Easley

LB
Nigel Bradham
Zach Brown
Anthony Hitchens
Navorro Bowman
Tahir Whitehead

CB
Bashaud Breeland
Trumaine Johnson
Malcolm Butler
Rashaan Melvin
Aaron Colvin
Pierre Desir

S
Eric Reid

Slim pickings.

Maniac 03-06-2018 04:02 PM

Leveon Bell? Pittsburgh is not letting him go.

sherck 03-06-2018 04:06 PM

That is a great list FatDT. Well done.

Walk Worthy,

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FatDT 03-06-2018 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 57811)
Leveon Bell? Pittsburgh is not letting him go.

Probably not. But shit happens. Elvis Dumervil became a FA because Denver couldn't figure out their fax machine.

Dam8610 03-06-2018 05:58 PM

I like most of your list but would be disappointed in the front office if they elected to pay Allen Robinson or Nate Solder the kind of money they'll get on the open market. I'd add McKinnon at RB, and Lewis since they seem to have interest. Also, Jordan Matthews at WR seems like a guy that would compliment Hilton well and not be terribly expensive like Allen Robinson.

Coltsalr 03-06-2018 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 57828)
I like most of your list but would be disappointed in the front office if they elected to pay Allen Robinson or Nate Solder the kind of money they'll get on the open market. I'd add McKinnon at RB, and Lewis since they seem to have interest. Also, Jordan Matthews at WR seems like a guy that would compliment Hilton well and not be terribly expensive like Allen Robinson.

Okay, I’ll bite: Enlighten us on why you hate Nate Solder.

omahacolt 03-06-2018 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 57835)
Okay, I’ll bite: Enlighten us on why you hate Nate Solder.

We know why you like him

Dam8610 03-06-2018 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 57835)
Okay, I’ll bite: Enlighten us on why you hate Nate Solder.

First, I don't "hate" Nate Solder, I just don't think he's worth open market left tackle money, which is what he'll get. The reasons I don't think he's worth open market left tackle money are the Cheaters' OL coach is very good and known for turning projects into productive players while under him, Solder was a brutally awful pass blocker before coming into the league (and he's not exactly been elite at it since entering the league), and he's going into his age 30 season. That's not a guy I want the Colts handing 4/$60 to, and that's likely what it would take to get him.

YDFL Commish 03-06-2018 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 57828)
I like most of your list but would be disappointed in the front office if they elected to pay Allen Robinson or Nate Solder the kind of money they'll get on the open market. I'd add McKinnon at RB, and Lewis since they seem to have interest. Also, Jordan Matthews at WR seems like a guy that would compliment Hilton well and not be terribly expensive like Allen Robinson.

I could live with Jordan Matthews over Allen Robinson. But I certainly don't want to add mediocre or oft injured RB's in FA.

Butter 03-06-2018 10:25 PM

I don't want to throw LT money at Solder when we have a very decent LT already, too many other holes.

rcubed 03-06-2018 11:00 PM

Dont dick around and go sign norwell

sherck 03-07-2018 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 57887)
Dont dick around and go sign norwell

You have to compete with probably 10 other teams that have the desire to sign him and the cap space to do so. It is not a matter of not wanting to, it is a matter of being the most compelling location for him to want to come to. Money is a big factor but not the only factor.

That said, I hope Ballard is persuasive.

Walk Worthy,

Oldcolt 03-07-2018 10:48 AM

Watkins, Robinson, Norwell....there are some big time players available this year. Would you spend the money to get one or more of the top tiered free agents if possible? If so what is the maximum you would invest in free agency and do you want to spend it on a few 'great' players or maybe sign players on the second level? I'd realistically like to see us get at least one of these dudes. We've got some 70 odd million to spend. Now can the organization make itself attractive to these guys?

FatDT 03-07-2018 11:27 AM

Don't want Watkins. I don't think he'll ever be great despite his potential.

Dam8610 03-07-2018 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 57913)
Watkins, Robinson, Norwell....there are some big time players available this year. Would you spend the money to get one or more of the top tiered free agents if possible? If so what is the maximum you would invest in free agency and do you want to spend it on a few 'great' players or maybe sign players on the second level? I'd realistically like to see us get at least one of these dudes. We've got some 70 odd million to spend. Now can the organization make itself attractive to these guys?

If it was me, I would throw everything at Norwell and then try to get one of Richardson/Poe, then Bradham and Bowman, then second or lower tier guys at CB, S, WR, and OT.

VeveJones007 03-07-2018 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 57919)
If it was me, I would throw everything at Norwell and then try to get one of Richardson/Poe, then Bradham and Bowman, then second or lower tier guys at CB, S, WR, and OT.

I’m a hard pass on Bowman. Colts need more athleticism at LB than what he can give at this stage of his career.

Dam8610 03-07-2018 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 57933)
I’m a hard pass on Bowman. Colts need more athleticism at LB than what he can give at this stage of his career.

The Colts need a MLB, so if not him, then maybe Hitchens? I'm really just looking for someone better than Morrison and not a rookie.

rcubed 03-07-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 57906)
You have to compete with probably 10 other teams that have the desire to sign him and the cap space to do so. It is not a matter of not wanting to, it is a matter of being the most compelling location for him to want to come to. Money is a big factor but not the only factor.

That said, I hope Ballard is persuasive.

Walk Worthy,

I understand that. The point was stop fucking around and fix the line!

VeveJones007 03-07-2018 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 57941)
The Colts need a MLB, so if not him, then maybe Hitchens? I'm really just looking for someone better than Morrison and not a rookie.

Totally with you there. I think they want Hitchens because he can play either MLB or WILL depending on how the other position works out.

Coltsalr 03-07-2018 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 57941)
The Colts need a MLB, so if not him, then maybe Hitchens? I'm really just looking for someone better than Morrison and not a rookie.

Hitchens is supposedly a fait accompli to come to the Colts given that they have Eberflus at DC now

I absolutely love Roquan Smith for ILB and if we trade down we could totally get him.

Rashaan Evans in our #2 spot would also be a great pickup there.

Dam8610 03-07-2018 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 57960)
Hitchens is supposedly a fait accompli to come to the Colts given that they have Eberflus at DC now

I absolutely love Roquan Smith for ILB and if we trade down we could totally get him.

Rashaan Evans in our #2 spot would also be a great pickup there.

You think Evans will last that long? I'd be happy with he or Vander Esch at 36. That said, I doubt either lasts that far.

omahacolt 03-07-2018 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 57960)
Hitchens is supposedly a fait accompli to come to the Colts given that they have Eberflus at DC now

I absolutely love Roquan Smith for ILB and if we trade down we could totally get him.

Rashaan Evans in our #2 spot would also be a great pickup there.

don't be an asshole

Coltsalr 03-07-2018 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 57873)
First, I don't "hate" Nate Solder, I just don't think he's worth open market left tackle money, which is what he'll get. The reasons I don't think he's worth open market left tackle money are the Cheaters' OL coach is very good and known for turning projects into productive players while under him, Solder was a brutally awful pass blocker before coming into the league (and he's not exactly been elite at it since entering the league), and he's going into his age 30 season. That's not a guy I want the Colts handing 4/$60 to, and that's likely what it would take to get him.

Looks like your old man crush might be hitting the open market again:

Dolphins releasing Suh 'under consideration'
One NFL official told the Miami Herald the Dolphins releasing DT Ndamukong Suh remains "under consideration."
The source reportedly didn't say whether the move is likely or unlikely, merely that it's being considered. The Herald reported in February Suh would likely be designated as a post-June 1 release if cut, which would save the Fins $17 million under the salary cap. $8.5 million of Suh's $17 million salary becomes guaranteed on March 19. Suh turned 31 in January and hasn't missed a game since 2011. He would be an extremely hot commodity on the open market.

Dam8610 03-07-2018 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 57989)
Looks like your old man crush might be hitting the open market again:

Dolphins releasing Suh 'under consideration'
One NFL official told the Miami Herald the Dolphins releasing DT Ndamukong Suh remains "under consideration."
The source reportedly didn't say whether the move is likely or unlikely, merely that it's being considered. The Herald reported in February Suh would likely be designated as a post-June 1 release if cut, which would save the Fins $17 million under the salary cap. $8.5 million of Suh's $17 million salary becomes guaranteed on March 19. Suh turned 31 in January and hasn't missed a game since 2011. He would be an extremely hot commodity on the open market.

Ballard won't do it because he's 31, but I'd at least kick the tires. Still a good player and won't command nearly as large of a contract.

Dam8610 03-08-2018 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 57960)
Hitchens is supposedly a fait accompli to come to the Colts given that they have Eberflus at DC now

I absolutely love Roquan Smith for ILB and if we trade down we could totally get him.

Rashaan Evans in our #2 spot would also be a great pickup there.

Roquan Smith would have to fight through a block before I'd be okay taking him with a top 15 pick. Don't get me wrong, he's fast, has great instincts, is great in coverage, and makes plays, but you can say that about Evans, Jefferson, and Vander Esch as well, and they also fight through blocks. Give me Chubb and Vander Esch over Smith and Landry every time.

VeveJones007 03-08-2018 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 57966)
You think Evans will last that long? I'd be happy with he or Vander Esch at 36. That said, I doubt either lasts that far.

Latest mocks I've seen have both going towards the end of round 1, but maybe one slips.

sherck 03-08-2018 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 58079)
Latest mocks I've seen have both going towards the end of round 1, but maybe one slips.

There are ALWAYS guys whom the pundints say are "1st round talent" that don't get picked during the first day. Always....

I don't know if any of them are linebackers this year but there will be plenty of guys whom teams think are 1st round guys who slip into the top half of the 2nd round.

I hope we get 2 impact guys from this year's draft. Chubb and a Linebacker or O-Lineman would be my hope but I just hope that 36th slot is a for real guy.

Walk Worthy,

Dam8610 03-08-2018 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 58081)
There are ALWAYS guys whom the pundints say are "1st round talent" that don't get picked during the first day. Always....

I don't know if any of them are linebackers this year but there will be plenty of guys whom teams think are 1st round guys who slip into the top half of the 2nd round.

I hope we get 2 impact guys from this year's draft. Chubb and a Linebacker or O-Lineman would be my hope but I just hope that 36th slot is a for real guy.

Walk Worthy,

Leighton Vander Esch to the Steelers makes too much sense to not happen, despite my sincerest hopes that it doesn't. Then the Cheaters and Eagles both need LBs. I am also hoping that the Colts use this draft wisely, the positioning of the picks is almost like having a round higher pick every time. Hopefully Ballard makes good use of it and we won't see another draft with this type of positioning for over a decade.

VeveJones007 03-08-2018 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 58081)
There are ALWAYS guys whom the pundints say are "1st round talent" that don't get picked during the first day. Always....

I don't know if any of them are linebackers this year but there will be plenty of guys whom teams think are 1st round guys who slip into the top half of the 2nd round.

I hope we get 2 impact guys from this year's draft. Chubb and a Linebacker or O-Lineman would be my hope but I just hope that 36th slot is a for real guy.

Walk Worthy,

As Dam said, problem is need. A lot of teams at the end of Rd 1 need a LB.

FatDT 03-09-2018 11:06 AM

Trumaine Johnson will for sure be a FA. Rams have Peters and Talib now. Do we want him?

Vinny Curry has been released by the Eagles. Apparently had a good year on the edge but it didn't show in his stats. I have no idea on him.

Lots of movement in the NFL right now.

FatDT 03-09-2018 11:10 AM

Tyrann Mathieu also expected to be cut from AZ. Probably don't need him but that's another name that other teams can chase after.

Dam8610 03-09-2018 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 58173)
Tyrann Mathieu also expected to be cut from AZ. Probably don't need him but that's another name that other teams can chase after.

Isn't Mathieu a SS? He'll only be 26 this upcoming season, and he's certainly better than anything else on the market. I wouldn't be opposed to adding him if the team thinks he'd be a good compliment to Hooker.

FatDT 03-09-2018 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 58175)
Isn't Mathieu a SS? He'll only be 26 this upcoming season, and he's certainly better than anything else on the market. I wouldn't be opposed to adding him if the team thinks he'd be a good compliment to Hooker.

I thought he played FS.

HoosierinFL 03-09-2018 02:26 PM

ANd now Richard Sherman will be available.
mixed feelings. hmm...

Dam8610 03-09-2018 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 58176)
I thought he played FS.

Tackle numbers suggest SS. Either way, I'd be on board if Ballard thinks he'll work well with Hooker.

testcase448 03-09-2018 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 57960)
Hitchens is supposedly a fait accompli to come to the Colts given that they have Eberflus at DC now

I absolutely love Roquan Smith for ILB and if we trade down we could totally get him.

Rashaan Evans in our #2 spot would also be a great pickup there.

“Just About Everybody Believes” Colts Will Sign Anthony Hitchens

Maniac 03-09-2018 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 58194)
ANd now Richard Sherman will be available.
mixed feelings. hmm...

an aging CB coming off surgery on both Achilles? He won't ever be close to the same again.

Butter 03-09-2018 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 58194)
ANd now Richard Sherman will be available.
mixed feelings. hmm...

Would completely depend on price.

Puck 03-09-2018 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter (Post 58265)
Would completely depend on price.

Yep. At 80% he's still better than anyone we have. And I'm not Sherman fan

FatDT 03-09-2018 08:44 PM

The NFL has gone trade bonkers.


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