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apballin 12-30-2017 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 48863)
What were your thoughts on Jim Caldwell as coach?

I think he tried to be Dungy too much instead of having his own identity

YDFL Commish 12-30-2017 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 48940)
I think he tried to be Dungy too much instead of having his own identity

No he did not try to be Dungy. In fact he fired Ron Meeks and hired Larry Coyer. I believe he also got rid of Gene Huey, who was a great RB coach.

So Caldwell definitely tried to forge his own identity. He just made poor decisions in doing so.

VeveJones007 12-30-2017 11:39 PM

Schefter just tweeted that (no surprise) the Colts are expected to fire Pagano.

Coltsalr 12-31-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 48940)
I think he tried to be Dungy too much instead of having his own identity

The point is, all the excuse-making you make for Pagano could apply to Caldwell.

Both were coaches held afloat by great QB play. Both collapsed once said QB missed a season. Defending one while having a crush on the other points to personal bias.

Indiana V2 12-31-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 48967)
The point is, all the excuse-making you make for Pagano could apply to Caldwell.

Both were coaches held afloat by great QB play. Both collapsed once said QB missed a season. Defending one while having a crush on the other points to personal bias.

Dang that's solid.

apballin 01-03-2018 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 48967)
The point is, all the excuse-making you make for Pagano could apply to Caldwell.

Both were coaches held afloat by great QB play. Both collapsed once said QB missed a season. Defending one while having a crush on the other points to personal bias.

Are you fucking serious??

You just named everycoach except Belicheck in that post

Held afloat by great QB play!!! LOL

You know theywon games with Hasselbeck right???

DrSpaceman 01-04-2018 12:42 AM

One stat sums up Pagano's failures with the team :

In six years he did not once beat the Pats or the Steelers. 0-12 total.

That is your biggest competition, or should be if you expect to make a SB, and never once beat them.

DrSpaceman 01-04-2018 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 50012)
Are you fucking serious??

You just named everycoach except Belicheck in that post

Held afloat by great QB play!!! LOL

You know theywon games with Hasselbeck right???

Steelers have won games and survived with injuries to Roethlisberger on multiple occasions.

Packers have managed to stay in contention before for a good part of a season without Rodgers.

rcubed 01-04-2018 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 50023)
One stat sums up Pagano's failures with the team :

In six years he did not once beat the Pats or the Steelers. 0-12 total.

That is your biggest competition, or should be if you expect to make a SB, and never once beat them.

That’s a good post. Well done.

sherck 01-04-2018 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 50023)
One stat sums up Pagano's failures with the team :

In six years he did not once beat the Pats or the Steelers. 0-12 total.

That is your biggest competition, or should be if you expect to make a SB, and never once beat them.

The idea is correct, but the facts are wrong. The Colts are 0-9 vs PIT or NE in the Pagano era.

Cheats losses = 2012 / 2013 playoffs / 2014 / 2014 playoffs / 2015

Steelers losses = 2014 / 2015 / 2016 / 2017

Not quite the same as 0-12 but, well, close enough.

Walk Worthy,


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