Yeah, I don't think that's exactly the reason the rest of the world is shaking their heads at the US these days...

But props for being someone who thinks the problem with the world is men not calling women the c-word enough, or whatever you were getting at.

I refuse to vote from someone with an R or D by their name over a 3rd party candidate simply because they are the lesser of two evils.

Its that kind of thinking that has us in this mess where the parties put up weak candidates election after election.

Voting for one major party candidate simply so the other one doesn't win is not good enough, and should not be good enough, when voting for the president.

I buying into the idea you have to pick one of the major party candidates, no matter who they are, just to beat the other person just perpetuates this country's problems long term.

Means absolutely nothing but what it say's. No hidden meaning, no subliminal undertones. Just a great big suck one if you don't like me or what I stand for. Makes no difference to me how you take it, don't take it, or if any of it appeals to you.

Whatever, don't care. She is a cunt. I didn't stutter, or mean it any other way than how I typed it.

What a dick.

I know, you dont care, still a dick though.

Need more like me and this country wouldn't be full of pussies. I'm 51 and I don't have time for sugar coating or worrying about if I offend someone. I am 100% exactly the same way in person. Family loves me, grand kids adore me, so all that other shit is just fluff.

There's a difference between stating your mind and calling someone a cunt.

Not saying you're wrong by any means, and I respect your opinion here. I see where you're coming from.

And I think any other year, I'd understand it better. But in 2016, it really seemed like voting Johnson WAS voting Trump. Johnson and Stein were never viable candidates (IMO, Johnson was a nutjob too, certifiable, but totally JMO), so voting Independent to make any kind of a statement on either party was really the same as not hurting the guy who announced himself as an executive trainwreck so many months prior.

I can't emphasize enough: I get the logic any other year. But this year, it wasn't just "they both suck" or "typical partisan Sophie's choice". This year, it was Donald Trump loudly stomping toward the White House, glasses of water rippling as if stirred by dinosaurs approaching in Jurassic Park, yelling "I'm going to fuck shit up, and not in the good way you guys want me to!"

But I do respect your civil discussion here, and rebuke of a two-party system that is obviously both severely flawed and going nowhere anytime soon. Now its just set to co-opt the looney outsiders who would otherwise declare independent.

Pussies ≠ sane human beings conscious of the fact that other people exist beyond themselves.

Sugar-coating ≠ not being grossly misogynistic.

Chance this guy says this shit beyond a message board, or calls some other woman he disagrees with the c-word? I'm betting zero.

Yup; you're clearly a family man. If anything came across to me in your posts here, it was that.

If you're betting I wouldn't say it to their face if they had it coming, you would lose your bet. You try and make it sound like I go around degrading every woman in my path. If they deserve the moniker, I'll hang it on them. It really is as simple as that. Some things are true whether you believe them or not. Grow a set. Save your typing. I am done with this circular argument. It's pointless. Being scared of everything is no way to go through life. People who matter don't care, and people who care don't matter. You can get on with existing in your little make believe world where everything is roses and lollipops, and I will go on living like I just don't care. You get one shot at it, so I just don't care about you if you don't effect my everyday life.

Democrats screwed the pooch. Their arrogance that Hillary could win destroyed them. A lot of people just didn't trust Hillary. Her lies, her Clinton Foundation, her email scandal, Benghazi, just to name a few. I don't know how Trump is going to turn out, but it was an election where I didn't feel good voting for either one of them. Trump is a blowhard and says the stupidest shit sometimes. I do like that Trump wants to deport all the illegal aliens that are criminals. I do like that he wants to protect our boarders. I do like that he wants to repeal Obamacare, which has been a disaster. I guess time will tell whether Trump is worth a shit or not. But, this I truly believe, Hillary would have been a disaster.

Not all of California voted for Hillary. The big cities, such as SF and LA did, but the central valley voted against Hillary. Trump won about 33% of the California votes.

By territory alone, the state’s blue and red sides ended up fairly even, as voters delivered wins for Mr. Trump across the rural Central Valley and northern counties.

i am no hillary fan. but to say that she would be worse than trump is laughable at best. more like retarded.

trump has made this country a laughingstock. the dude is a god damn moron. he has no idea what he is doing.

protect our borders is fine. i have been an advocate of that for years. but by building a wall? are you kidding me? it is illogical and expensive. mexico will not be paying for it.

fix obamacare. don't repeal it. which won't happen because trump is all about big business. big pharma will make out even better. our health care system is destroying the middle class. insurance is too expensive and prescription drugs have to get regulated.

hillary would have been, at the very least, stable. trump is a moron that has a mental disability

Hillary and stable should never be put in the same sentence. Trump may have a mental disability, but so does Hillary. Again, not a real fan of either one of them.

Is half of America retarded? People didn't want that bitch in office and for someone like Trump to beat her tells you all you need to know about Hillary.

Anyone else starting to sense a theme here?

Retarded and/ or racist. Yes

What are you talking about? There are legit reasons to not want her as president. No need to make shit up

Just what shit am I making up?

I wouldn't call her a bitch if she didn't earn that title.

Thank God they trust Trump, though. That's working out well. He's proving to be the bastion of honesty so far.

Trump still uses an unsecured, consumer-grade (!) Android phone, and refuses to get rid of it despite everyone around him pleading to do so. Somehow, it seems like the least problematic thing about him. Guess we can also throw in his lies about donating to military charities, his bizarre lies about his margin of victory in the election (that interaction with ABC News this week was particularly embarrassing), his refusal to show his tax returns ...

... oh, and the many dances with Russia the Trump team has had and been caught bold-faced lying about.

But, yup. Emails. Totes the problem.

Here's the issue though: when does stupid become dangerous? It seemed like a novelty act, a performance, during his campaign. If anything, the hubris, deceit and self-masturbation has multiplied exponentially since then.

To me, it's not just "stupid shit" when Trump goes on his fake news crusade. It's Trump trying to tell you to listen to him, and only him. And while I maintain that the Constitution and balance of power checks are too strong to ever let him truly become one ... that's how you start down the road of claiming dictator status. Which isn't just stupid shit anymore, but shit that threatens the lives, well-being and security of others.

But was that ever really in dispute? It's not as if Obama had offered safe harbor for illegal criminals. He, too, was deporting those. Trump is broadening his sweep. To be fair, it sounds like his stance is softening; apparently, the WH is now in favor of allowing children to remain.

I just don't see how Trump is proposing anything Obama wasn't doing. He's just aiming to show bigger force, instill more fear and look more active in fulfilling a nonsensical campaign promise.

In no realistic way. Mexico ain't footing that bill. The wall thing is already a mess. If we're talking travel plan, then in no realistic, legal or effective way. If you're going to propose the travel ban he did, then logic would dictate, from past attacks, you start with Saudi Arabia. Not even on the table. I don't think Saudis should be banned from entering America myself, but if you really believe in a travel ban, you can't believe Trump is effectively installing one with our land or air borders...

But what's his replacement plan? You can't just repeal. You have to replace. A lot of people who voted for Trump are finding they're screwed while they wait for answers here. He made a big show of fighting to repeal Obamacare; which is whatever, the dysfunction of Congress is what neutered a sensible proposal there to an amorphous mess in the first place. But the solutions are lacking.

Is the verdict really out at this point?


I guess I'll just never get the defense or justification of Trump. Look, I get it. Politics are personal and complicated. I don't ever aim to shit on anyone's party affiliation. That's dumb, and that's how we end up in so many messes.

But Trump transcends party identification. He's a dangerous, foolish man who represents the absolute worst of America, compromises our security and reputation, and is on pace to set this country back in so many ways. That's not a Republican thing. That's a Trump thing.

And my non-partisan side rant here: will we ever get a candidate who fixes the fucking infrastructure of this country? I mean, damn. Hillary wasn't about doing that. Trump is too obsessed with his dumb campaign promises (which didn't include that) to do it. Meanwhile, dams are nearly collapsing, bridges are failing, so much of the concrete build of America is entirely neglected. But we'd much rather wave flags to go after ISIS or build walls or any other number of non-priority things than turn our attention to our own goddamn crumbling infrastructure.

Apparently Obama did try and it looks like Trump will try.

Republican fiscal hawks in Congress shot down an economic stimulus program built on infrastructure work when Obama was the person proposing it, and Trump faces similar resistance.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-quicktake-q-a

Ugh, Congress...

Thanks for sharing. Interesting read.

o


We could try to level the playing field by constantly calling Donald Trump a cunt.

An eye for an eye, and a cunt for a cunt.

GBB88, I really don't want to live in the fantasy land you call reality

It is a cold, dark dreary place.

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Curious. Since you are being pretty judgmental on this. What is your definition of cunt?

What he said was mostly accurate

Then the two of you can live on that island together.

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the island where facts exist? yeah dude. that is where we live


obviously you can't refute anything gbb said. your boy trump is an embarrassment. you might want to jump over to the right side of history here buddy.

Didnt vote for him. Dont support him. Think he will be a disaster.

But the Dims have nothing but poverty, dependancy, failure and totalitarianism in their vision of the future.

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Yup that's a totally fact-based, rational perspective :rolleyes:

Also I'm not a Democrat.

Uh, not something you call a woman? Because you don't like her?

Is this ... is this really, like, something that needs to be said? Are there really this many people on ColtFreaks that need this remedial humanity explained to them? What the fuck?

The fact is, half of the (voting) population lost it's mind when a black man was elected twice. There was no way in hell they'd allow a woman to follow after that. They instead voted for a vulgar, unqualified, treasonous conman with literal neo-nazis in his administration. And they are proud of it. This will not end well. This country is screwed.

If I'm going to fact-check the Trump Rationalizers here, have to also check: literal neo-Nazis? Referring to Bannon/Breitbart? I think you can tie Bannon to editorial support of alt-right philosophy, but he's not, for example, Milo Yiannopoulus (if you were referring to Bannon).

The treasonous label feels likely, given there are several uncontested ties between Trump-affiliated individuals and Russia. How much he knew/knows, though, I think is up for debate. I'd totally buy that Trump is more manipulatee than manipulator when it comes to his campaign's relationship with Russia. Still makes it likely he's, to some degree, treasonous. And it's no coincidence that Wikileaks coincided targeted leaks with the exact beats of his campaign on those days (Trump's advisors 100 percent coordinated with Wikileaks to strategically leak, which ties in with Russia's direct criminal act of obtaining the emails/info in the first place).

Can't argue vulgar and unqualified though.

The thing I don't get about this "WE GOTTA MOVE ON FROM OBAMA!" or "OBAMA RUINED THIS COUNTRY!" is that Obama objectively took one of the worst climates a President has ever inherited (economy in the tubes, unemployment trending toward Depression levels) and completely turned it around. Put the economy back in the black in a major way, reduced unemployment to an afterthought, handed Trump the keys to a DJIA (and I know, I know, the DJIA is a terrible marker of overall economic success, but just using an example since Trump loves to tie his impact to the Dow) knocking on the door of 20,000.

He did that, of course, while withdrawing troops from the clusterfuck Dubya left us in in the Middle East, restoring America's respectability on an international stage, and keeping America safe from mass-scale foreign terrorist attacks (because, of course, we ignore the crazy white American citizens who commit terrorist attacks at the business end of automatic weaponry in this country...)

FAR from perfect, and he did some really scary shit with furthering of the Patriot Act, took a foolish stance on Snowden, was caught spying on allies in a really dumb and obvious way, and was way too soft on corporate criminals throughout. But overall: I don't see the trash heap so many Trump supporters seem to witness.

Trump's campaign played on this fear that America was in the shitter, that we were in huge trouble, losing our jobs, unsafe, being taken advantage of, etc. And I think that fear campaign really got to people. So there must be something to that -- some legitimate fear he was tapping into that shouldn't be ignored. But I guess I just don't fully understand what that fear is, and would love if someone from the other side could explain just what Trump is "rescuing" us from.

But but but... obamacare!

o


Yes.

George Carlin once said, “Think of how dumb the average person is, and realize that half of them are even dumber than that.”


The is one example of how fucking dumb the American public is:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6m7pWEMPlA

o

the fear is easy to understand.

old white people and uneducated white people fearing that blacks and mexicans are going to disrupt how great they have had it for hundreds of years.

that is why there is trump

It's always the white man's fault. Poor guy.

yeah

pretty much. or have you not read a history book

Is it different than calling a woman a bitch? or a guy a dick or a prick?

Just curious why you singled out cunt.

Why is so much more offensive?

I think the reason you are having an issue answering is because you really dont have an answer.