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VeveJones007 03-20-2019 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Maniac (Post 113880)
Are you related to Dam? Obviously the post was about getting better from free agency. I guess I thought it was obvious that everyone hopes that the young players we have improve. We haven't upgraded the talent though.
Two key points in response to this:

1) If you're focusing on free agency, you're missing the ball. The whole point of Ballard's strategy is drafting and development.
2) If they draft and develop well, they will be an improved team next year.

VeveJones007 03-20-2019 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 113883)
The thing is, with ALL the guys you listed there, I can’t argue that I think they’re hopeless. None of them.

This is not the Grigson/Pagano era any longer where you saw guys like Antonio Morrison, D’Juon Smith, TJ Green and so many others and immediately knew they were trash and knew they would never get any better (and were correct).
I think Turay is really the only question mark on that list. Though, we could have said the same thing about Wilson last year and he took a major step forward beginning the middle of last season. Hopefully Turay turns a similar corner.

VeveJones007 03-20-2019 03:20 PM
Back to Geathers, Holder is hearing that it's a one year deal.

Makes sense given the injury history.

Butter 03-20-2019 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 113894)

I also didn't list Leonard because it will be hard to replicate his stats from last year, but I do think he can be a better in certain aspects of his game next year (e.g. short yardage, reading playaction, etc.).
Pass coverage

Oldcolt 03-20-2019 04:19 PM
Leonard could improve because nobody is perfect,logically he is going into his second year and he should get better, it's just difficult for me to see anyone improving on what he did last year. I'm probably just not giving him enough credit for just how good he is.

VeveJones007 03-20-2019 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 113879)
I think we can reasonably expect many of these guys to show some improvement in 2019. The question will be whether they can consistently show it or whether it will be demonstrated in flashes.

Mack
Hines
Wilkins
Cain
Nelson
Smith
Lewis
Turay
Walker
Wilson
Moore
Hooker

I also think we'll see a better Andrew Luck...
And just to add to this, the defense in general and the OL were mostly trash the first 7 games of last season. That's almost half the season. If they simply maintain their performance from the last 13 games (w/playoffs), you're looking at a team easily capable of 12-4 without any external upgrades.

Sure, there's risk of injury and some bad bounces, but those could be easily offset by current player progression, seemingly minor additions (MY GUY, Devin Funchess!), and a good draft class.

Chromeburn 03-20-2019 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 113894)
Yep, Smith and Hooker (health-permitting) could see big jumps.

I also didn't list Leonard because it will be hard to replicate his stats from last year, but I do think he can be a better in certain aspects of his game next year (e.g. short yardage, reading playaction, etc.).
If the defense improves his stats should go down. Which would be a good thing overall. He will get smarter and instincts should start to get better.

Chromeburn 03-20-2019 04:55 PM
I like a one year deal. Geathers has shown flashes, just need to be healthy and have some consistency.

apballin 03-20-2019 05:11 PM
Still I’d rather have geathers than any of the available safeties we can still draft a young safety and let geathers play the box safety in passing situations. Bottom line any player that will sacrifice his neck to make a 4th down stop is a guy I want on my team

DrSpaceman 03-20-2019 05:30 PM
I wonder if the one year/short deals for players are scaring off free agents more than the money offered by the Colts.

Not sure how much difference it makes, since NFL contracts are not guaranteed anyway, but just a thought


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