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Puck 01-05-2018 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 50291)
He's been with Andy Reid (in Philadelphia and KC) and Lovie Smith. So he's been exposed to traditional 4-3, Tampa 2, and 2 gap 3-4. My hope is he'll stay 3-4 if hired and get a good DC in to oversee it, like Dom Capers.

According to this Ballard may have plans for a move back to 4-3

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/...-colts-defense

omahacolt 01-05-2018 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 50297)
According to this Ballard may have plans for a move back to 4-3

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/...-colts-defense

it is all just a guess at this point

Racehorse 01-05-2018 06:49 PM

I had a few problems with his premise.

1. Ballard seems like a guy to do due diligence, so picking a guy before interviews is unlikely.

2. Wilson and Hooker fell to us as BPA, so their selection means nothing.

3. He assumes it will be a defensive guy, but an offensive guy could bring a guy in to run whatever scheme the two of them feel is best.

4. The 4-3 guys also have played 3-4, and being versatile is perfect for a hybrid defense like we have been running, and would give flexibility to the new coaching staff.

5. WTF does a practice squad QB have to do with a 4-3?

YDFL Commish 01-05-2018 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 50297)
According to this Ballard may have plans for a move back to 4-3

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/...-colts-defense

That has to be the stupidest football article I have ever read.

YDFL Commish 01-05-2018 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 50310)

4. The 4-3 guys also have played 3-4, and being versatile is perfect for a hybrid defense like we have been running, and would give flexibility to the new coaching staff.


By hybrid, do you mean Bend and Break?

Puck 01-05-2018 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 50314)
By hybrid, do you mean Bend and Break?

Pagona built a hybrid D here. Slow without much power

Dam8610 01-05-2018 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 50297)
According to this Ballard may have plans for a move back to 4-3

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/...-colts-defense

What does the zone part have to do with Front 7 alignment? 34 teams can run zone coverages just as easily as 43 teams.

Puck 01-05-2018 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 50320)
What does the zone part have to do with Front 7 alignment? 34 teams can run zone coverages just as easily as 43 teams.

Well there are less LBers to have to replace

Dam8610 01-05-2018 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 50325)
Well there are less LBers to have to replace

That just shifts the problem from needing a bunch of LBs to needing a bunch of DL AND LBs.

Racehorse 01-05-2018 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 50314)
By hybrid, do you mean Bend and Break?

Yes, but mostly in the fourth quarter.

VeveJones007 01-05-2018 08:07 PM

Colts to interview Vrabel tomorrow, per Albert Breer.

Thorgrim 01-05-2018 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 50341)
Colts to interview Vrabel tomorrow, per Albert Breer.

Marvin Harrison should be the special guest interviewer in this case..

Dam8610 01-05-2018 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Thorgrim (Post 50351)
Marvin Harrison should be the special guest interviewer in this case..

And the interview should consist of one question: "Where on your face do you want the ball Marvin Harrison is going to spike to hit you?" If there's one thing about Ballard I'm not liking so far, it's his affinity for Cheats stooges.

VeveJones007 01-06-2018 01:09 AM

Have to wonder if McDaniels is looking to jump ship out of NE right now.

Racehorse 01-06-2018 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 50369)
Have to wonder if McDaniels is looking to jump ship out of NE right now.

Not if the article posted yesterday is true and BB is on his way out of NE.

VeveJones007 01-06-2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 50386)
Not if the article posted yesterday is true and BB is on his way out of NE.

If BB is jumping ship because of Brady and ownership, I would think McDaniels would be considering it as well. That's where I was coming from.

Racehorse 01-06-2018 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 50411)
If BB is jumping ship because of Brady and ownership, I would think McDaniels would be considering it as well. That's where I was coming from.

Someone would have to replace him, and why not one of those two?

Coltsalr 01-06-2018 07:01 PM

Tom E Curran, who’s pretty well connected up here in New England seems to be insinuating that the Colts and McDaniels might be each other’s first choice:

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Josh McDaniels interviewed Wednesday night with the Indianapolis Colts and the session, I'm told, went "very well."

Now in his second stint as Patriots offensive coordinator, McDaniels has passed on head coaching opportunities repeatedly since returning to New England during the 2011 playoffs. That probably won't happen this time around.

McDaniels will go from the Colts to Friday interviews with the Bears and Giants.

In his season-and-a-half as Broncos head coach in 2009-10 to a season spent in St. Louis with the Rams before Steve Spagnuolo was fired, McDaniels got a look at mercurial nature of NFL coaching life.

Perception, reality, missteps, power struggles, wins, losses, personality conflicts, misunderstandings – have enough of any one of those and you are packing up the family and heading elsewhere.

McDaniels has enjoyed stability and success since returning. He's coached in three Super Bowls, been the winning OC in two, helped shepherd Tom Brady into his 40s and helped raise Jimmy Garoppolo.

That stability isn't assured going forward.

With Garoppolo gone, the Patriots run of excellence has an expiration date: when Tom Brady retires (or is traded, cut...who knows?...). Meanwhile, there's no post-Belichick succession plan in place.

With the Patriots likely headed to their third Super Bowl appearance in four seasons, there's virtually no way McDaniels can further raise his value.

For skeptics who'd explain away the Patriots success by crediting Brady or the system of Belichick, the way Garoppolo played in San Francisco has to reflect back on McDaniels at least a little, doesn't it?

McDaniels, who has a wife and four kids, made it clear in an excellent piece with Dan Pompei of Bleacher Report that stability is primary. A better relationship management than he showed in Denver will lead to that stability.

Pompei's piece was written early in the 2016 season and Pompei was granted a ton of access by McDaniels – presumably with Belichick and the Patriots' blessing. The story reintroduced the NFL to McDaniels and highlighted his strengths. It had a "back on the market..." feel to it.

As it turned out, McDaniels didn't take any of the jobs offered last offseason including the one in San Francisco which – given what was gifted to the Niners by the Pats – has to sting a little.

If McDaniels knew then what he knows now about Garoppolo being shipped at the trade deadline to the Niners, then maybe he would have gone.

But the Patriots didn't know that's what they were going to do with Garoppolo when McDaniels was turning down San Fran last January. From what I've gathered, the Patriots didn't know what they were going to do with Garoppolo, period.

The three teams meeting with McDaniels have unique quarterback situations. The Giants have an aging-but-still-valuable Eli Manning, who could have a renaissance under McDaniels (or be a disaster). The Bears have Mitch Trubisky, the second overall pick in April, who could mature as Jared Goff and Carson Wentz did in 2017 (or suck). The Colts have Andrew Luck, who will either return to being Andrew Luck or have a shoulder like hamburger and be just a guy.

If the job is about relationships this time around, Luck probably affords the best chance for mutual success. McDaniels is an offensive Ph.D. Luck ought to be. Trubisky is a relative neophyte. And Manning's almost done.

Further, if it's about relationships, the relationship between GM and coach has to be outstanding. McDaniels knows and likes Colts GM Chris Ballard. And Ballard acquired the Patriots "other" backup quarterback – Jacoby Brissett - at the end of training camp and spent time debriefing Brissett on what McDaniels was like.

Colts owner Jim Irsay is a wild card, but Ballard's been impressive in his approach and brings a professional feel to a team that got weird in the past few years. One more thing – McDaniels spent a lot of time speaking with Tony Dungy (see the Pompei story) and Dungy seems like he'd advocate to Irsay and Ballard on McDaniels' behalf. His voice carries weight there.

In Chicago, the GM is Ryan Pace. He's got a four-year deal but he's already trying to dig out after hiring John Fox and – in this excellent post – it's explained that there are multiple hands in the stew for the Bears.

Can't have it. Although arguing on the relationship front is the presence of Ben McDaniels, Josh's younger brother, who was hired as an offensive assistant last January.

To me, the Giants are a mess. From a toxic locker room with a diva receiver and malcontent defensive players to a string-pulling owner who helped butcher the Manning benching then pretended he had nothing to do with it. Beyond that, newly-hired GM Dave Gettleman – a true no BS guy – is going to have strong ideas about how he wants things to be. A first-time head coach might suit him better than McDaniels. And vice versa.

Bottom line is McDaniels will have options. It would be a surprise if he doesn't choose one.
https://sports.yahoo.com/curran-colt...204628493.html

ChoppedWood 01-06-2018 07:34 PM

If BB is going to leave- why not just hire him instead of McDaniels?

Let Ballard handle PR and money and BB handle all the nuts and bolts shit.

Puck 01-06-2018 07:40 PM

His end job is the Giants.... that is where he has always wanted to coach according to an article I read or heard

Racehorse 01-06-2018 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 50451)
If BB is going to leave- why not just hire him instead of McDaniels?

Let Ballard handle PR and money and BB handle all the nuts and bolts shit.

Because BB would never go for that

apballin 01-06-2018 09:30 PM

After watching the Chiefs choke job fuck all they're coaches

omahacolt 01-06-2018 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 50479)
After watching the Chiefs choke job fuck all they're coaches

You liked pagano. Your opinion is meaningless

Coltsalr 01-06-2018 10:37 PM

Titans reportedly were going to pursue Josh McDaniels had they lost today.

They won, however, so they should be out of that race.

ChoppedWood 01-06-2018 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 50476)
Because BB would never go for that

I am probably in that same camp... UNLESS.... and it is a BIG unless.

If there is a lot of rotting meat inside this little broken cooler that they keep harping on in NE, then maybe BB might have some interest in sticking a finger in the eye of Kraft and in particular Brady?

A few years ago there was a little noise about Brady having some connections to steroids- ala the Barry Bonds Balco type of thing. It all sort of evaporated and there wasn't much traction.

Consider me ever the conspiracy theorist but if the reports are to be believed, BB seems to have decided to stake some higher ground than just some good trainer dude that reached a level where he was garnering more clients from within the team and BB became jealous - he has a vault of fucking Lombardis!

I am keeping my eyes open for some emerging reports that Brady is being investigated for banned substance use. I could easily see Bill trying to get out in front of this to save his legacy. If this were to happen would I believe for one fucking second he wasn't involved- shit I would expect him to be shoving the syringe into Tom's ass personally. That being said, I also think BB would really be pissed if his legacy as the GOAT gets tarnished by a roid controversy to go along with all his other assorted skeletons.

So, if that is perhaps what is really taking place, I could see him wanting to rub it in their faces for potentially tarnishing his historical stature.

Not likely but....

Puck 01-07-2018 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 50512)
I am probably in that same camp... UNLESS.... and it is a BIG unless.

If there is a lot of rotting meat inside this little broken cooler that they keep harping on in NE, then maybe BB might have some interest in sticking a finger in the eye of Kraft and in particular Brady?

A few years ago there was a little noise about Brady having some connections to steroids- ala the Barry Bonds Balco type of thing. It all sort of evaporated and there wasn't much traction.

Consider me ever the conspiracy theorist but if the reports are to be believed, BB seems to have decided to stake some higher ground than just some good trainer dude that reached a level where he was garnering more clients from within the team and BB became jealous - he has a vault of fucking Lombardis!

I am keeping my eyes open for some emerging reports that Brady is being investigated for banned substance use. I could easily see Bill trying to get out in front of this to save his legacy. If this were to happen would I believe for one fucking second he wasn't involved- shit I would expect him to be shoving the syringe into Tom's ass personally. That being said, I also think BB would really be pissed if his legacy as the GOAT gets tarnished by a roid controversy to go along with all his other assorted skeletons.

So, if that is perhaps what is really taking place, I could see him wanting to rub it in their faces for potentially tarnishing his historical stature.

Not likely but....

I have been thinking along these lines as well

Dam8610 01-07-2018 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 50512)
I am probably in that same camp... UNLESS.... and it is a BIG unless.

If there is a lot of rotting meat inside this little broken cooler that they keep harping on in NE, then maybe BB might have some interest in sticking a finger in the eye of Kraft and in particular Brady?

A few years ago there was a little noise about Brady having some connections to steroids- ala the Barry Bonds Balco type of thing. It all sort of evaporated and there wasn't much traction.

Consider me ever the conspiracy theorist but if the reports are to be believed, BB seems to have decided to stake some higher ground than just some good trainer dude that reached a level where he was garnering more clients from within the team and BB became jealous - he has a vault of fucking Lombardis!

I am keeping my eyes open for some emerging reports that Brady is being investigated for banned substance use. I could easily see Bill trying to get out in front of this to save his legacy. If this were to happen would I believe for one fucking second he wasn't involved- shit I would expect him to be shoving the syringe into Tom's ass personally. That being said, I also think BB would really be pissed if his legacy as the GOAT gets tarnished by a roid controversy to go along with all his other assorted skeletons.

So, if that is perhaps what is really taking place, I could see him wanting to rub it in their faces for potentially tarnishing his historical stature.

Not likely but....

The only "greatest" anything of all time Belicheat or Brady are are the greatest cheaters of all time. If Brady was on roids, that only further cements that.

VeveJones007 01-07-2018 04:47 PM

La Canfora thinks McDaniels will leave NE and will choose between Indy and Chicago.

Puck 01-07-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 50603)
La Canfora thinks McDaniels will leave NE and will choose between Indy and Chicago.


Well. He might want to wait for an offer first. HAHA

DrSpaceman 01-07-2018 05:49 PM

I will be shocked if BB goes anywhere. Its all just media stirring stuff up again. He and Brady just aren't that stupid.

Indiana V2 01-07-2018 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 50616)
I will be shocked if BB goes anywhere. Its all just media stirring stuff up again. He and Brady just aren't that stupid.

Agreed. If anything this will make them hunker down for another Super Bowl run.

Coltsalr 01-07-2018 09:09 PM

Agreed with all the above that nothing is likely regarding Belichick to the Giants, but the Giants interview activity has suddenly become interesting...

They interview McDaniels but then go completely dark after. Now it’s being reported it’s a two horse race between the Colts/Bears...

They “couldnt” schedule Jim Schwartz this weekend after having been approved to do so and agreeing to do so...

They’re interviewing Steve Wilks (the token miniority candidate) tomorrow...

Again, I don’t THINK anything is likely to happen, but if they were theoretically waiting at the altar for Belichick, I have to imagine they’d be acting a lot like they are right now.

apballin 01-08-2018 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 50501)
You liked pagano. Your opinion is meaningless

And you liked Tim Jennings and Mike Doss

Dam8610 01-08-2018 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 50603)
La Canfora thinks McDaniels will leave NE and will choose between Indy and Chicago.

Hope he likes the Bears and Trubisky then.

omahacolt 01-08-2018 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 50698)
And you liked Tim Jennings and Mike Doss

Both solid players

Coltsalr 01-08-2018 09:07 AM

Sounds like Saturday's game was the death knell for Nagy's head coaching chances:

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I reached out to several current and former NFL execs – including many who have been involved in coaching searches – and they all agreed that the Chiefs' debacle Saturday night is a massive setback for their coordinator, Matt Nagy. The young play caller was part of blowing an 18-point lead at home to a middling opponent with no passing game of its own, and systematically ignoring the league's leading rusher in the process. "You can't hire him now," one grizzled front office exec said. "No way." Nagy had meetings with the Bears and Colts this weekend. My money in Chicago is on a different young offensive coach, John DeFilippo, the Eagles' quarterbacks coach, who is the kind of guy who won't give newly empowered general manager Ryan Pace too much pushback. They are all about finding their guy to get the best out of Mitch Trubisky. Pace should try to move the moon and the stars to keep Vic Fangio as his defensive coordinator.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...rs-more-notes/

La Canfora also says in that article that he's betting on McDaniels being down to the Bears/Colts and says in the above blurb that he sees DeFilippo going to the Bears, so that would seem to leave...

FatDT 01-08-2018 10:26 AM

I don't know how you can pin so much of that on Nagy. If he was even calling the 2nd half offense, he had zero control over most of the shit that went wrong for KC.

YDFL Commish 01-08-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 50731)
Sounds like Saturday's game was the death knell for Nagy's head coaching chances:



https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...rs-more-notes/

La Canfora also says in that article that he's betting on McDaniels being down to the Bears/Colts and says in the above blurb that he sees DeFilippo going to the Bears, so that would seem to leave...

What if, the rumors are true that Andy Reid took over the play calling duties in the 2nd half?

Coltsalr 01-08-2018 01:05 PM

Bears hire Nagy:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/...ead-coach/amp/

Coltsalr 01-08-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 50748)
What if, the rumors are true that Andy Reid took over the play calling duties in the 2nd half?

That’s apparently what the Bears must believe.


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