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Puck 12-10-2019 12:43 AM

Patriots caught video taping AGAIN!!!!!!
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...from-press-box


This is BULL SHIT!!!!!!! Fucking cheaters

Spike 12-10-2019 01:10 AM

Those New England bitches just can't stop their cheating ways. Seriously, they were taping the sorry ass Bengals, what a joke. That organization is so damn corrupt. NFL should take away their next 3 first round picks and fine Kraft a billion fucking dollars. BB denies he had anything to do with it, yeah right!

On another note, the Patriot fans were bitching about the refs in their game against the Chiefs. Finally, the refs stuck it to the Pats, it's about damn time.

Discflinger 12-10-2019 06:15 AM

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Can’t wait to see how Kraft buys himself out of another one. Everyone likes money.

Luck4Reich 12-10-2019 11:01 AM

https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/securi...patriots-fans/


Patriots fans were harassing Mahomes girlfriend to where security had to move her. Worst fan base in the world and they love their cheaters.

Chaka 12-10-2019 11:31 AM

So slimy. The Patriots claim that the filming was strictly for a Patriots web series entitled "Do Your Job" and had nothing to do with their football operations....which just so happens to also be one of the pre-planned excuses they had given their operatives to use in 2007 during the Spygate scandal if they were caught.

https://twitter.com/johnbreech/statu...46996430417923

Racehorse 12-10-2019 11:47 AM

Shocked! I am totally shocked by this news! No way they would ever cheat. Only the other 31 teams cheat.

Colts And Orioles 12-10-2019 12:20 PM

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Bill Belichick: ) "We're competitive, and we'll try to be competitive in every area ........ but we don't knowingly, intentionally want to do anything that's across the line."



Bill Belichick Denies Involvement with Videographer Caught Taping Bengals' Sideline

(By Ben Baby)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ngals-sideline


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Racehorse 12-10-2019 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 147172)
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Bill Belichick: ) "We're competitive, and we'll try to be competitive in every area ........ but we don't knowingly, intentionally want to do anything that's across the line."



Bill Belichick Denies Involvement with Videographer Caught Taping Bengals' Sideline

(By Ben Baby)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ngals-sideline


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This seems more like a confession than a denial: "But since that's [Spygate] happened, I'd say we've tried to keep a good distance behind the line and not maybe take it as far as we would might have in the past. But it's never really fundamentally changed there."

rcubed 12-10-2019 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 147162)
So slimy. The Patriots claim that the filming was strictly for a Patriots web series entitled "Do Your Job" and had nothing to do with their football operations....which just so happens to also be one of the pre-planned excuses they had given their operatives to use in 2007 during the Spygate scandal if they were caught.

https://twitter.com/johnbreech/statu...46996430417923

if they were filming the advanced scout doing his job, why are the cameras filming the bengals sidelines?

fucking cheaters.

ChoppedWood 12-10-2019 01:07 PM

I fully expect Roger to declare that the Bengals are ineligible for the 2020 playoffs for reporting this. In other words, not a fucking thing of consequence...

Racehorse 12-10-2019 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 147181)
if they were filming the advanced scout doing his job, why are the cameras filming the bengals sidelines?

fucking cheaters.

For eight minutes, focused on the coaches calling plays?

ChoppedWood 12-10-2019 01:09 PM

It just got reported that the NFL has obtained a copy of the film.

Can someone please check the motion sensor on Roger's office fireplace so we can see if it was him or Al Riveron that tosses the film into the flames?

Brylok 12-10-2019 01:26 PM

The Patriots cheat with impunity and have for years. It's their nature. The NFL doesn't do anything about it, so why would they stop? Nothing will be done this time either

Colts And Orioles 12-10-2019 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 147182)


I fully expect Roger to declare that the Bengals are ineligible for the 2020 playoffs for reporting this. In other words, not a fucking thing of consequence ........


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David Stern's investigation of Michael Jordan, in regard to the accusations of him gambling ..........



Stern: llllll "Mike, you didn't bet on any basketball games, did you ???"

Jordan: lll "No."

Stern: llllll "OK Mike, that's all I have. Thanks for stopping by my office."



Mike Lupica, 1993


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Chaka 12-10-2019 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 147189)
The Patriots cheat with impunity and have for years. It's their nature. The NFL doesn't do anything about it, so why would they stop? Nothing will be done this time either

I guess it depends on your definition of the phase "doesn't do anything." The NFL fined the Patriots $1 million, took away 1st and 4th round draft picks, and suspended Brady for four games for his role in Deflategate. I fully expect the NFL to hammer the Patriots if they determine they've cheated again.

Chromeburn 12-10-2019 02:38 PM

I love to hate on the pats, but the filming might just be a dumb contractor grabbing b-roll. I mean, of all the teams to video tape you tape the bengals? You can beat them with your eyes closed. Wonder what the footage on the tape is actually like though.

The thing with the fans doesn't surprise me. Their fans are horrible in person and online. Last year they sprayed that beer into Tyreek Hill's face after he scored a TD. Although he is a POS also.

albany ed 12-10-2019 03:04 PM

Bill Belichick: ) "We're competitive, and we'll try to be competitive in every area ........ but we don't knowingly, intentionally want to do anything that's across the line."



Bill Belichick Denies Involvement with Videographer Caught Taping Bengals' Sideline

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I remember a line in Godfather 2 when a hit man was asked if Micheal Corleone ever directly ordered him to whack anyone.

"Not directly, it was through a button man. The Godfather has a lot of buttons."

BB - "I'm not involved with that videographer. He might share his stuff with someone who shares it with someone, who shares it with someone I know and that someone shares it with me, but hey, I'm not involved with that videographer.

Pez 12-10-2019 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 147203)
I love to hate on the pats, but the filming might just be a dumb contractor grabbing b-roll. I mean, of all the teams to video tape you tape the bengals? You can beat them with your eyes closed. Wonder what the footage on the tape is actually like though.

The thing with the fans doesn't surprise me. Their fans are horrible in person and online. Last year they sprayed that beer into Tyreek Hill's face after he scored a TD. Although he is a POS also.

I don't think it possibly could be a "dumb contractor grabbing b-roll." This is an organization that manages every single aspect of its identity, processes and procedures.

If the contractors were indeed credentialed, they would have received strict guidance from the NFL regarding what they were and were not allowed to film. There's likely a document with dumb contractors signature on the bottom of it.

On another message board, the Pats seem to be defending themselves by stating the same thing you did, that the Bengals suck and why would they cheat against the Bengals. I think the reason is that they cheat against everyone. The "Do your job" piece that this is all supposedly for is likely precisely designed for this purpose. The team they were caught cheating against in Spygate was the 2007 Jets, a team that finished 4-12 that year.

The Patriots have simply squandered the benefit of the doubt. There is nothing that convinces me that they ever stopped cheating after spygate.

There are high resolution concealed cameras at Foxboro that film the opponent's sidelines, they capture this and act on this data during games. They also keep this in an archive and study it.

https://i.imgflip.com/3j151j.jpg

When they were caught on 2007, they had a room full of film of opponents signals. Only two teams have been punished for illegally filming another team, the Patriots in 2007 spygate, and the broncos in 2010. The latter was caught taping a walkthough of the 49ers in London. The person responsible was fired (Scarnecchia). Another person who knew about it was fined $50,000, then fired. That person was Josh McDaniels, who is now the OC of the fucking patriots.

The patriots cheat, this was not an accident, this was not a dumb contractor. This is part of their program, they do it intentionally and they do it often. There is nothing that will change my mind on this point. They suck, everything they have earned is tainted and I cannot wait until the stain of the patriots "dynasty" is over.

Edit: Sorry Chrome, didn't mean this to sound like I was calling you out. Just happened to quote your post.

rcubed 12-10-2019 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 147197)
I guess it depends on your definition of the phase "doesn't do anything." The NFL fined the Patriots $1 million, took away 1st and 4th round draft picks, and suspended Brady for four games for his role in Deflategate. I fully expect the NFL to hammer the Patriots if they determine they've cheated again.

there needs to be pressure on the NFL from the other owners saying enough. then something substantial might happen.

Pez 12-10-2019 03:59 PM

Oh, the independent contractor was Kraft Media.

omahacolt 12-10-2019 04:01 PM

Nothing will happen

Chromeburn 12-10-2019 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pez (Post 147216)
I don't think it possibly could be a "dumb contractor grabbing b-roll." This is an organization that manages every single aspect of its identity, processes and procedures.

If the contractors were indeed credentialed, they would have received strict guidance from the NFL regarding what they were and were not allowed to film. There's likely a document with dumb contractors signature on the bottom of it.

On another message board, the Pats seem to be defending themselves by stating the same thing you did, that the Bengals suck and why would they cheat against the Bengals. I think the reason is that they cheat against everyone. The "Do your job" piece that this is all supposedly for is likely precisely designed for this purpose. The team they were caught cheating against in Spygate was the 2007 Jets, a team that finished 4-12 that year.

The Patriots have simply squandered the benefit of the doubt. There is nothing that convinces me that they ever stopped cheating after spygate.

There are high resolution concealed cameras at Foxboro that film the opponent's sidelines, they capture this and act on this data during games. They also keep this in an archive and study it.

https://i.imgflip.com/3j151j.jpg

When they were caught on 2007, they had a room full of film of opponents signals. Only two teams have been punished for illegally filming another team, the Patriots in 2007 spygate, and the broncos in 2010. The latter was caught taping a walkthough of the 49ers in London. The person responsible was fired (Scarnecchia). Another person who knew about it was fined $50,000, then fired. That person was Josh McDaniels, who is now the OC of the fucking patriots.

The patriots cheat, this was not an accident, this was not a dumb contractor. This is part of their program, they do it intentionally and they do it often. There is nothing that will change my mind on this point. They suck, everything they have earned is tainted and I cannot wait until the stain of the patriots "dynasty" is over.

Edit: Sorry Chrome, didn't mean this to sound like I was calling you out. Just happened to quote your post.

Ehh it’s fine I don’t care a whole lot about them to argue it. Even if innocent, bc of their prior offenses people assume guilt. But I’ve been on shoots and kinda understand how this could happen. Cameraman and producer is going to want to shoot what the subject is looking at and analyzing so they can cut it in. Depending on the piece the more broll the better. Also, if you want to illegally film, you don’t need to park a camera crew in the press box anymore. Cameras are so small now, you could put a guy in the crowd with a camera in his hat or something similar and control it with a smart phone. Or he’ll just use your smart phone, almost as good as a camcorder now and people never put them down.

I’ve also gone in as press before and I didn’t have to sign anything or receive instructions, just where I could and could not go.

But they have cheated so many times, they deserve all the flack they get for it whether innocent or not.

Pez 12-10-2019 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 147221)
Nothing will happen

It cracks me up that the patriots have shit their own bed on this. If they aren't punished, the NFL looks weak. If they are punished it's the Patriots being persecuted for winning.

Who on the patriots organization thought it was a good idea to have camera guys in Patriots gear In the pressbox of their next opponent? If you give them the benefit of the doubt (I dont), you have to therefore believe that they are just completely fucking stupid (which I don't).

As far as punishment goes, how about what they slapped Burfict with for the hit on Jack Doyle. His past behavior changed that from a fine to the end of his season.

Spygate: a 1st and $750k
DeflateGate: a 1st, a 4th $1 million fine and Brady suspended 4 games
Spygate II: 1st, 2nd, 4th, $2 million

rcubed 12-10-2019 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pez (Post 147225)
It cracks me up that the patriots have shit their own bed on this. If they aren't punished, the NFL looks weak. If they are punished it's the Patriots being persecuted for winning.

Who on the patriots organization thought it was a good idea to have camera guys in Patriots gear In the pressbox of their next opponent? If you give them the benefit of the doubt (I dont), you have to therefore believe that they are just completely fucking stupid (which I don't).

As far as punishment goes, how about what they slapped Burfict with for the hit on Jack Doyle. His past behavior changed that from a fine to the end of his season.

Spygate: a 1st and $750k
DeflateGate: a 1st, a 4th $1 million fine and Brady suspended 4 games
Spygate II: 1st, 2nd, 4th, $2 million

dissolution of the franchise.

JAFF 12-10-2019 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 147221)
Nothing will happen

I hate it when you are right

JAFF 12-10-2019 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 147203)
I love to hate on the pats, but the filming might just be a dumb contractor grabbing b-roll. I mean, of all the teams to video tape you tape the bengals? You can beat them with your eyes closed. Wonder what the footage on the tape is actually like though.

The thing with the fans doesn't surprise me. Their fans are horrible in person and online. Last year they sprayed that beer into Tyreek Hill's face after he scored a TD. Although he is a POS also.

If you listen to Mike and Mike in the morning they found a quote from one of the patriots on how they would go in claim they were in advanced group and just taking the rpb roll and film team sidelines for their signals

Luck4Reich 12-10-2019 06:18 PM

That team could get away with murder or prostitution...oh wait

JAFF 12-10-2019 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 147259)
That team could get away with murder or prostitution...oh wait


rimshot!

omahacolt 12-10-2019 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pez (Post 147225)
It cracks me up that the patriots have shit their own bed on this. If they aren't punished, the NFL looks weak. If they are punished it's the Patriots being persecuted for winning.

Who on the patriots organization thought it was a good idea to have camera guys in Patriots gear In the pressbox of their next opponent? If you give them the benefit of the doubt (I dont), you have to therefore believe that they are just completely fucking stupid (which I don't).

As far as punishment goes, how about what they slapped Burfict with for the hit on Jack Doyle. His past behavior changed that from a fine to the end of his season.

Spygate: a 1st and $750k
DeflateGate: a 1st, a 4th $1 million fine and Brady suspended 4 games
Spygate II: 1st, 2nd, 4th, $2 million

Yeah I don’t know. I am guessing it will be a small fine and that’s it. You are right, the nfl will look bad no matter what

Colts And Orioles 12-11-2019 05:14 PM

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No "wrong forum" posts yet ........ until now.

The Patriots do play in the same league as do the Colts, so it is somewhat Colts-related, I suppose.


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Brylok 12-11-2019 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 147357)
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No "wrong forum" posts yet ........ until now.

The Patriots do play in the same league as do the Colts, so it is somewhat Colts-related, I suppose.


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I'm slipping...

JAFF 12-11-2019 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 147357)
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No "wrong forum" posts yet ........ until now.

The Patriots do play in the same league as do the Colts, so it is somewhat Colts-related, I suppose.


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Another team joins the Colts as those cheated by the cheatriots

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 12-11-2019 10:34 PM

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1204878840021037058

Quote:

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell on the #Patriots investigation: “It’s under review. We’re going to be thorough and take our time.”
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1204879528402796544

Quote:

Asked about the #Patriots history, Goodell said, “That’s a factor. But most important is this incident.”

Racehorse 12-12-2019 07:50 AM

INterpretation: We will wait until after the playoffs, so nothing affects the postseason.

Dam8610 12-12-2019 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 147127)
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...from-press-box


This is BULL SHIT!!!!!!! Fucking cheaters

You're surprised by this? Of course they never stopped filming, and Ernie Adams is still on their payroll, still doing a job that no other team in the NFL even has. The question isn't whether or not they'll keep cheating as long as Belicheat and Brady are there, the question is whether Goodell will finally grow the stones to ban them for life and remove their names from the record books, the answer to which is likely no.

Luck4Reich 12-12-2019 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 147413)
You're surprised by this? Of course they never stopped filming, and Ernie Adams is still on their payroll, still doing a job that no other team in the NFL even has. The question isn't whether or not they'll keep cheating as long as Belicheat and Brady are there, the question is whether Goodell will finally grow the stones to ban them for life and remove their names from the record books, the answer to which is likely no.

If that could happen, every Patriots fan would commit suicide by drowning in Clam Chowder. :cool:

rcubed 12-12-2019 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 147414)
If that could happen, every Patriots fan would commit suicide by drowning in Clam Chowder. :cool:

what a waste of clam chowder

Luck4Reich 12-12-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 147429)
what a waste of clam chowder

Agreed!

Brylok 12-12-2019 04:29 PM

They'll wait until after the pro bowl when people have forgotten about it and gone into NFL shutdown mode and then sweep it under the rug.

ChoppedWood 12-12-2019 05:09 PM

The league is such a fucking scam. Amazing how the videos of players punching and kicking women find their way into the public domain, videos that are reprehensible from a PR perspective but really do very little to taint the billionaire boys club- that's not an integrity of the game issue, so it just miraculously appears and they get to furrow their brows and shake their fingers at those crazy offenders of code of conduct policies. The mighty Roger gets to cast those maniacs into an arbitrarily assessed pit of doom and pound his chest as the savior of the league.

However, where the real powers that be, influencers, the shot callers are potentially impacted, where the fan base may very well look at the shield and say "fuck this, off with their heads" to a team that EVERYONE knows has cheated their way to dynasty status, because the very integrity of the game, the betting odds which dictate EVERYTHING, where that type of impact may exist, well we have one set of footage that was just mysteriously cast into a shred bin and now we have another instance that punk ass GODdell is going to suppress in an effort to let the next "crazed player does crazed shit" steal the headline....

In many respects I have come to very much hate the NFL. I love football, it is such a great sport and so filled with wonder, but man this guy and his band of crooked ass cronies that manipulate all this shit- fuck him and fuck them! The day that ass bag is shown the door will be one of the better days in the history of man!

ROLL THE FOOTAGE ROGER, ROLL THE FOOTAGE AND LET THE PUBLIC SEE WHAT YOUR CHILD TRAFFICKING SEXUAL PREDATOR BUDDY WAS HAVING HIS BOYS TAPE. You punk ass coward!


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