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DrSpaceman 01-06-2019 02:40 PM

TY Hilton ankle status
 
Was listening to one of the sports radio stations, Mad Dog on Sirius/XM, they were going through all the critical injuries.

Indicated TYs ankle is pretty messed up and more serious than the Colts are letting on, so its probably not getting better before next week or during the playoffs. Seems they are likely doing some injections pregame to get him through it.

As long as he is running straight or not making sharp cuts he seems to be OK, but any cut on the field he will probably struggle to make. Which means he would probably do best on fly, post, drag, WR screen routes.

Amazing what he has been doing lately if that is true. Multiple clutch 3rd down plays vs the Texans. Big play after big play. Gutting it out via injury

Hope he can fully recover in the offseason if this is true and doesn't do more permanent damage.

Butter 01-06-2019 02:45 PM

Anybody ever calling him soft because he avoids hits needs punched square in the Junk.

1965southpaw 01-06-2019 02:49 PM

I heard the same from Kevin Bowen in the 48 hours prior to the Houston game which is why I was skeptical that he could be much more than a decoy. I was pleasantly surprised. Per Bowen, he was even at the facility on xmas day getting treatment when nobody else was there. He also concluded that Colts were not being fully transparent on the extent of the injury.

Butter 01-06-2019 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 104235)
. He also concluded that Colts were not being fully transparent on the extent of the injury.

What? Get out of here with that fake news, the Colts would never be misleading about injuries to players, never. /s

1965southpaw 01-06-2019 03:00 PM

:D

Chromeburn 01-06-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 104233)
Anybody ever calling him soft because he avoids hits needs punched square in the Junk.

I hate that shit, so stupid. Show me a WR that takes on hits and I’ll show you a guy that’s out of the league in a few years.

nondoc 01-06-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 104230)
Was listening to one of the sports radio stations, Mad Dog on Sirius/XM, they were going through all the critical injuries.

Indicated TYs ankle is pretty messed up and more serious than the Colts are letting on, so its probably not getting better before next week or during the playoffs. Seems they are likely doing some injections pregame to get him through it.

As long as he is running straight or not making sharp cuts he seems to be OK, but any cut on the field he will probably struggle to make. Which means he would probably do best on fly, post, drag, WR screen routes.

Amazing what he has been doing lately if that is true. Multiple clutch 3rd down plays vs the Texans. Big play after big play. Gutting it out via injury

Hope he can fully recover in the offseason if this is true and doesn't do more permanent damage.


Colts are on record saying he'd be missing games if it wasn't the playoffs. it is his ankle.... AND he is playing. I don't see the story. BTW... I thought TY looked healthier than he did in the Tenn game. a week off it here will be nice. all the ankle drama reminds me of Freeney.

Maniac 01-06-2019 03:28 PM

Imagine what he'd be doing on a healthy ankle. He's a baller.

TheMugwump 01-06-2019 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 104247)
Imagine what he'd be doing on a healthy ankle. He's a baller.

I wish he was a little bit taller.

Dewey 5 01-06-2019 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 104235)
I heard the same from Kevin Bowen in the 48 hours prior to the Houston game which is why I was skeptical that he could be much more than a decoy. I was pleasantly surprised. Per Bowen, he was even at the facility on xmas day getting treatment when nobody else was there. He also concluded that Colts were not being fully transparent on the extent of the injury.

Good. They don't need to be. Injury reports are for gambling. I like that they try to be tight lipped about injuries.

VeveJones007 01-06-2019 04:44 PM

Will Carroll said that if Hilton’s ankle is as bad as he’s heard, then we’re going to look back at this as a Ronnie Lott-level performance playing through severe injury.

Maniac 01-06-2019 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 104252)
I wish he was a little bit taller.

hahahaha Going old school there.

Dam8610 01-06-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 104328)
Will Carroll said that if Hilton’s ankle is as bad as he’s heard, then we’re going to look back at this as a Ronnie Lott-level performance playing through severe injury.

That means something, because that dude literally cut his finger off to stay in a game.

Racehorse 01-07-2019 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 104235)
I heard the same from Kevin Bowen in the 48 hours prior to the Houston game which is why I was skeptical that he could be much more than a decoy. I was pleasantly surprised. Per Bowen, he was even at the facility on xmas day getting treatment when nobody else was there. He also concluded that Colts were not being fully transparent on the extent of the injury.

Define "fully transparent". The Colts have him on the injury report, listed as "questionable". Hilton does not practice all week to rest the injury, and then suits up for the game. If he does anything wrong to it even getting out of bed, the dude could miss the game. He plays, and he takes downs off. Sounds like the very definition of "questionable" to me.

omahacolt 01-07-2019 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 104467)
Define "fully transparent". The Colts have him on the injury report, listed as "questionable". Hilton does not practice all week to rest the injury, and then suits up for the game. If he does anything wrong to it even getting out of bed, the dude could miss the game. He plays, and he takes downs off. Sounds like the very definition of "questionable" to me.

A lot of fans think they should be able to get the access to dudes every checkup and physical. Any vagueness means the colts are hiding something.

Why people think they need more info than they are given is beyond me.

1965southpaw 01-07-2019 11:24 AM

I have no issue with the Colts holding their cards close with regards to things like it taking shots, etc to get him out there for a handful of plays. That's strategy and I'm for it. This is not fans though that are making these statements. It's local media making these statements and it hasn't been in a critical way but more in admiration of the toughness in perservereing and performing despite an injury that much worse than anyone knows.

NJColtsFan 01-07-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 104472)
A lot of fans think they should be able to get the access to dudes every checkup and physical. Any vagueness means the colts are hiding something.

Why people think they need more info than they are given is beyond me.

Happens in every market. Media complains about ‘transparency’ in Philadelphia too. I’ve decided, its their way of passively-aggressively targeting the team because team isn’t enabling them to break a story, improve their ratings or clicks.

GoBigBlue88 01-07-2019 11:46 AM

To me, though, there's a difference in how Colts handled the Luck injury last year (which everyone griped about), and how they're handling the Hilton injury.

With the Luck injury, things felt a bit more disingenuous, like they were stringing folks along.

With Hilton's injury, it's much more: he has an injured ankle and he won't be practicing; next question.

Oldcolt 01-07-2019 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 104497)
To me, though, there's a difference in how Colts handled the Luck injury last year (which everyone griped about), and how they're handling the Hilton injury.

With the Luck injury, things felt a bit more disingenuous, like they were stringing folks along.

With Hilton's injury, it's much more: he has an injured ankle and he won't be practicing; next question.

I think we all felt that way last year but I actually think the Colts were up front with us. I don't think anybody (including Luck) really knew if he was going to return. If that is the case what are the Colts supposed to say?

GoBigBlue88 01-07-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 104498)
I think we all felt that way last year but I actually think the Colts were up front with us. I don't think anybody (including Luck) really knew if he was going to return. If that is the case what are the Colts supposed to say?

They kept moving the goalposts on his return. That was problematic.

omahacolt 01-07-2019 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 104506)
They kept moving the goalposts on his return. That was problematic.

Problematic for who? Recovery isn’t an exact science.

omahacolt 01-07-2019 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 104498)
I think we all felt that way last year but I actually think the Colts were up front with us. I don't think anybody (including Luck) really knew if he was going to return. If that is the case what are the Colts supposed to say?

Right. The only problem was irsay saying he would be ready. Everyone else was saying wait and see.

VeveJones007 01-07-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 104512)
Problematic for who? Recovery isn’t an exact science.

It was just dumb PR from Irsay to set expectations in the first place. It should have always been a wait-and-see approach the entire time.

GoBigBlue88 01-07-2019 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 104516)
It was just dumb PR from Irsay to set expectations in the first place. It should have always been a wait-and-see approach the entire time.

Exactly. There shouldn't have been this camp/end of camp/first game/October goalpost-moving because there shouldn't have been goalposts.

rcubed 01-12-2019 11:59 PM

Holder reporting TY says its a low and high ankle sprain.

He really gutted it out for the end of the season.

DrSpaceman 01-13-2019 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 106442)
Holder reporting TY says its a low and high ankle sprain.

He really gutted it out for the end of the season.

Yep, can't say enough about how he played the last 2 months while injured.


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