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Racehorse

01-08-2018 12:55 PM

What does signing Kaaya mean?

https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...ons/984938001/

I saw an article that said Ballard is going to hire a coach who would switch to a 3-4 defense and used this as an argument for it. Anyone know whay signing a practice squad QB would have to do with that?

indycolts2

01-08-2018 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 50757)

I could be wrong but I thought they were linking Kaaya having certain traits the new coach would like to some of the people Ballard brought in for 2017. People who would easily fit into a 4-3 scheme if it was changed. New coach is going to change the defense to a 4-3 scheme. Ballard has players in place who can play in 4-3.

sherck

01-08-2018 02:26 PM

To answer the original question, my guess is that they think that Kaaya has more potential to be QB3 behind Luck and Brissett than Walker does. It is not costing them much to carry him into Training Camp in 2018 to see.

As for a potential transition in to a 4-3 defense with 2017 personnel:

NT = Hankins, Woods, Stewart
UT = Anderson, Ridgeway, Hunt
DE = Sheard, ??
DE = Basham, ??

SLB = Simon, Mingo
MLB = Walker, George
WLB = Bostic, ??

CB1 = Melvin, Desir
CB2 = Wilson, Moore
NCB = Hairston, Milton
FS = Hooker, Butler, Green
SS = Geathers, Farley

Pass covering MLB, play making/tackling fool WLB and pass rushing DEs are the weakness of the roster in a 4-3.

Huh? Not much of a change from our weaknesses in a 3-4! Imagine that.

Walk Worthy,

indycolts2

01-08-2018 10:35 PM

Don't know much about Stampede Blue but at the end of this linked article is the speculation I was rambling on about.

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/...-colts-defense

YDFL Commish

01-08-2018 10:54 PM

It means, cya Scott Tolzein.

Racehorse

01-09-2018 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by indycolts2 (Post 50838)

Don't know much about Stampede Blue but at the end of this linked article is the speculation I was rambling on about.

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/...-colts-defense

That's the article! Now, what does a QB have to do with a 3-4 defense?

sherck

01-09-2018 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 50856)

That's the article! Now, what does a QB have to do with a 3-4 defense?

Nothing.

All they are trying to say is that Ballard has been bringing people in that fit a "specific" image of what he wants to do with the team and that Kaaya might be in that image for the QB situation.

As a basis for this thought pattern, Stampede Blue did an in-depth article (located here) that tries to show that all the defensive free agents and drafted players from 2017 fit a 4-3, cover 3 zone defensive scheme (think SEA Legion of Boom) much better than a 3-4 scheme. They use this as "evidence" that Ballard has known since last year who his new head coach was going to be (pointing towards Toub IMO) and what styles of offense/defense were going to be installed. Because Ballard knew ahead of time, then if he brings in a QB before the end of the season, that QB must fit whatever system we are going to.

Looking at Kaaya's NFL.com Draft Profile, he strikes me as a "West Coast Offense" kind of guy with a quick release, rhythm type of play. Some quotes from an article on HogsHaven.com (Redskins site)

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I'm not a big fan of Brad Kaaya in that I wouldn't want to build my O around, but can see him having success in a West Coast O like Wentz
— Ian Wharton (@NFLFilmStudy) January 7, 2017

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Brad Kaaya's full 2016 accuracy chart is alarming. Only excelled on short passes.
— Ian Wharton (@NFLFilmStudy) January 8, 2017

That is the thin line of reasoning many are going to to try and make the signing of Kaaya more than perhaps it is.

Walk Worthy

Thorgrim

01-09-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 50865)

Kaayas signing is nothing more than a reflection that the front office know that Tolzien is utter garbage. Kaaba will serve as a camp arm pending the trade of Brissett or his continuation as #2 qb. Either way I figure they see Kaya as nothing more than a potential #3 qb this year.

Brylok

01-09-2018 01:49 PM

Brissett is our starting QB and Kaaya is his backup. Luck is a headcase now and won't be back. I hope I'm wrong.

rcubed

01-09-2018 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 50901)

Brissett is our starting QB and Kaaya is his backup. Luck is a headcase now and won't be back. I hope I'm wrong.

We may find out on draft day

Butter

01-09-2018 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 50901)

Brissett is our starting QB and Kaaya is his backup. Luck is a headcase now and won't be back. I hope I'm wrong.

I am concerned about the long-term effect on his arm more than his head.

Brylok

01-09-2018 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 50954)

I am concerned about the long-term effect on his arm more than his head.

I'm worried about both. And his last press conference made me feel worse than I did before. We'll see.

omahacolt

01-09-2018 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 50901)

Brissett is our starting QB and Kaaya is his backup. Luck is a headcase now and won't be back. I hope I'm wrong.

Luck is a head case?

This is such a shitty fanbase

Racehorse

01-09-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 50988)

Luck is a head case?

This is such a shitty fanbase

Ryujinn was the worst "half empty" guy, but some try to top him/her.

Brylok

01-10-2018 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 50991)

Ryujinn was the worst "half empty" guy, but some try to top him/her.

Where'd that dude go? Did he ever come to the new board?

1965southpaw

01-10-2018 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 50991)

Ryujinn was the worst "half empty" guy, but some try to top him/her.

I'm a glass is half full kind of person. Why worry til you have to? Everything I've seen, heard, read and observed suggests andrew is intensely private and more than a bit socially awkward. Regardless of the state of his health (of which there is legitimate question), he makes things seem worse than they potentially are due to his reluctance and difficulty in talking about it (ex, most recent presser). I don't hold that against him. For some people that kind of spotlight is excruciating....no matter how much you are being paid to do so. I choose to believe (no, I don't have data or "sources") that he will eventually return healthy and continue to grow as a franchise QB. If that proves to be wrong, I will mourn what could have been......but I have no doubt that if he fails it will be simply due to his body failing him not cause he's a head case. I think he's more than earned the benefit of the doubt on this.

Racehorse

01-10-2018 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 51018)

Where'd that dude go? Did he ever come to the new board?

I think he changed his screen name. :rolleyes:

sherck

01-10-2018 12:03 PM

A tidbit that I ran across in an article:

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When kept clean in the pocket, Brissett had a passer rating of 91.6, but things broke down when he was pressured, and that dropped to 60.5 when the heat was applied.

Most QBs make more mistakes when pressured; it is the rate ones who either perform the same or even better pressured.

Brissett did some nice things in his first year as a starter. I think he has a lot of room to grow. Hopefully, a revamped O-Line and better offensive system will help him flourish so that we can trade him after the next year.

Walk Worthy,

Butter

01-10-2018 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 51068)

A tidbit that I ran across in an article:

Most QBs make more mistakes when pressured; it is the rate ones who either perform the same or even better pressured.

Brissett did some nice things in his first year as a starter. I think he has a lot of room to grow. Hopefully, a revamped O-Line and better offensive system will help him flourish so that we can trade him after the next year.

Walk Worthy,

I have no doubt the guy has a lot of ability and I like him as a number 2. On a Decent team, he will win some games, I just don't think he has the vision and decision making to ever be a starter in the NFL long term. I do think he can have a long successful career as a high-level backup.

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