1) their ball boy brought the ball bag after being checked by refs into the bathroom for a time I can't recall how long.

2) the refs stated that when checking psi, the numbers for each team all the same.

3) when psi was measured with all balls, colts balls were very similar, cheaters balls had much larger variance. Suggesting they were tampered with.

4) Tom Brady destroyed his cell phone.

5) people believe what they want.

I think the thing Pats fans and the talking heads miss out on, is that much of the punishment was a result of the way Brady and the organization acted during the investigation.

There are a lot of scientists that say a lot of things. Take a political argument like vaccines causing autism or if global warming is real and you get people that cite the work of scientists to prove that they are right.

In my opinion, it wasn't that cold. The text messages about the guy who prepared the balls getting game-worn gear, the guy on the payroll supposedly called "the deflator," the destroyed cell phone....

So here is a list of the coldest games in NFL history:

• Packers vs Cowboys at GB,1967, -13, -48 wc
• Bengals vs Chargers, 1982 -9, -59 wc
• Bills vs Rams, 1994, 0, -32 wc
• Vikings vs bears, 1972, -2, -26 wc
• Packers vs Giants 2008, 4, -24 wc
• Vikings vs Packers 1972, 0, -18 wc


The deflategate game was 51 degrees at game time, 30 something at halftime.

If the balls were inflated in a 68 degree room and then taken to a 30 degree environment, there would be some decrease in PSI because the molecules slow down, sure, I'm fine with that.

But, how many of you in any of your decades of watching football ever heard of the PSI of balls needing to be adjusted because it was cold? I dont recall this ever.

I don't know about you but I adjust the PSI of my balls on a regular basis.

Doesn't everybody?

I have never messed with your balls

The thing I hate about the chowda heads arguing it's science is that they ignore the fact that two things can be true at the same time.....1.cold can cause balls to deflate and 2.a cocksucking chowda head who locks himself in the bathroom for 90 seconds can also deflate balls.

The question wasn't what's possible. The question is What happened. And the burden of proof wasn't beyond a showdow of a doubt but based on a preponderance of the evidence.

I personally think if the chowda heads would have just said we did not direct anyone to deflate balls but take full accountability for the state of the balls, Roger would have slapped them with a minor fine....50k or so but once they tried to circumvent the process and usurp his authority in the CBA it was game on......in doing so I think the pissants have created fatigue and a blurring of the facts on this topic and made it seem like they got the death penalty for what happens naturally in their cold weather climate.

You pound every square inch you can find

I have a simple solution. Tom Brady destroyed his phone to prevent the text messages from being seen. The equipment manager jokingly referred to himself as the “deflator”. And said Tom drove him nuts about or some such. Now unless he has some weird inappropriate relationship with tires, they deflated footballs.

The latest thing is now Jackson said he didn’t notice anything wrong, so they conclude that we deflated the football once we got it. Like Jackson didn’t have other shot on his mind at the time. Grigson knew about it because the Ravens and Steelers noticed it too, they just didn’t want to say anything. Anyway, it’s just more deflection and excuse making. I don’t think this was that big of a deal. But when taken in context with everything else they have done it just shows a shady organization that will bend the roiled however they can to get an edge.

This is literally a game of inches, and every single super bowl they have won has been close. So you tell me whatever shady shot they have done has not influenced their wins. Tainted organization, tainted wins, asterisks next to it all in my book and most other fan bases also.

All I know is since then pats rb's started fumbling the ball when they went almost 2 years without a fumble