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FatDT 09-12-2018 10:34 AM

Quentin Nelson film review video
 
Not me, just saw it and wanted to share.

https://youtu.be/ZnU0kPldJe8

VeveJones007 09-12-2018 02:22 PM

That is football porn.

Here's another play where he just destroys the DL.

https://twitter.com/DTH_Mason/status...83763805081600

OneVoice 09-12-2018 03:20 PM

Just saw this and was going to post it myself ...looks good!

I would like to see some pass protection film ...I just remember one play where he didn't win the matchup (against Geno Atkins I think).

Bengals line is no joke tho, and all the more impressive.

Still dunno if a G was worth a 6th overall, but I really thought the interior OL was stout in the first game and def not the reason for the L.

YDFL Commish 09-12-2018 08:35 PM

Not a big Voch Lombardi fan. But good film nonetheless. I do agree that Wilkins should have pressed the hole on the first play.

Dam8610 09-12-2018 08:59 PM

He's doing his job well based on that film (though that's just highlights), but he's still not the level of impact player that you want from a top 10 pick. In the first play of that video, Jordan Wilkins erased all of Quenton Nelson's great work by not running between Braden Smith and Joe Haeg into the endzone, as an example.

Oldcolt 09-12-2018 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 79295)
He's doing his job well based on that film (though that's just highlights), but he's still not the level of impact player that you want from a top 10 pick. In the first play of that video, Jordan Wilkins erased all of Quenton Nelson's great work by not running between Braden Smith and Joe Haeg into the endzone, as an example.

So the running back picks the wrong hole and that proves you were right that the guard who did his job is not high enough level of impact player to merit a top 10 pick. I disagree with that logic.

Dam8610 09-12-2018 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 79305)
So the running back picks the wrong hole and that proves you were right that the guard who did his job is not high enough level of impact player to merit a top 10 pick. I disagree with that logic.

No, that was an example of how his impact on the game can be completely erased through no fault of his own. That the above can consistently happen in any given game is the reason that the offensive guard position is not a valuable enough position on which to spend a top ten draft pick.

Oldcolt 09-13-2018 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 79307)
No, that was an example of how his impact on the game can be completely erased through no fault of his own. That the above can consistently happen in any given game is the reason that the offensive guard position is not a valuable enough position on which to spend a top ten draft pick.

I understood what you meant. I disagree. I believe you could say the same about any player at any position on the team which in my opinion negates your argument. He may not end up being worth the 6th pick (there is almost no doubt in my mind barring injury, he will be.) but it won’t be because of mistakes other players make.

Racehorse 09-13-2018 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 79312)
I understood what you meant. I disagree. I believe you could say the same about any player at any position on the team which in my opinion negates your argument. He may not end up being worth the 6th pick (there is almost no doubt in my mind barring injury, he will be.) but it won’t be because of mistakes other players make.

You gotta forgive him. When he was a small child, his parents would drag him up the stairs of the Empire State Building by his leg, with his head banging on every step. Brain damage was unavoidable.

omahacolt 09-13-2018 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 79307)
No, that was an example of how his impact on the game can be completely erased through no fault of his own. That the above can consistently happen in any given game is the reason that the offensive guard position is not a valuable enough position on which to spend a top ten draft pick.

In general I agree that drafting guards in the top 10 is dumb.

That said, your point is stupid. The same argument can be made for taking a guard.

“If the qb can’t get the ball off then a wr is irrelevant”

“A great pass rusher is irrelevant if they can just run”


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