Khalil Mack
 

Khalil Mack is holding out and hasn't even spoken with Gruden since he was hired. If you're Ballard, do you at least pick up the phone and see if the Raiders would be open to moving him?

27 years and consistent production.
What does his contract look like and
has he been healthy to date?

Not sure about the contract but he's started 16 games for the last 4 years, I'm not aware of any health issues recently

Offer your 1 and hope for the best. He's worth it.

Would love to get him but Oakland isn’t letting him go

Doubt Ballard would do that.

That's okay. The 2019 DL class is deep.

Why would any afc team release/trade their best passrusher while still young and effective?

John Gruden is terrible at personnel management.

Ego.

If the Raiders trade Khalil Mack then I’ll have to assume that Al Davis has been faking his own death for the last seven years.

This. Not happening. It would be like us trading away Freeney in his prime. Make the effort to fix the issue, don't get rid of an extremely talented player at one of the most important positions.

Maybe if they switch their base defense, they'll get rid of him. :cool:

"Does not fit the system....."

Would never happen.

My thoughts exactly except now there are multiple rumors that the Raiders may actually be considering trading him. Gruden may love Key (their third rounder) enough to gamble or maybe its the Raiders being the Raiders. If true would you give two number ones for him? One and a player? Or is it to early to spend that money the Colts still have on the books?

I'd do a 2020 1st and maybe some other picks but that's it. All Richard Seymour got was a 1st two drafts from when he was traded, and Mack is that caliber of player.

Seymour was 29 and had averaged 5-6 sacks/year. Mack turns 27 this year and has averaged over 10 sacks/year.

Sacks per year don't tell the whole story. In terms of value they're similar, maybe a premium for Mack's age, so a 2019 3 and a 2020 1?

Two years of an elite player's prime is worth more than an extra 3rd.

Elite players have been traded in their prime for 2nd and 3rd round picks.

Why do you make posts that contradict each other?

He likes to hear/read himself talk, often seen arguing with "STOP" signs... :cool:

Because he is a walking, talking contradiction.:cool:

What post does that contradict?

I think that the reality is that trading star players rarely yields the number/quality of high draft picks that fans believe their team should receive. This is probably because fans often focus primarily upon the on-field performance of the players involved and don't look at the business side of the deal.

From the Colts perspective, obtaining someone like Mack would unquestionably be a big boost to the defense. On the other hand, since he's holding out, as a practical matter it will also require the Colts to pay Mack full (or close to full) market value (i.e. $15M-20M or so). So really, Mack's value is should be something like: Mack = ($15-$20 million) + (what draft picks?).

Also, Mack's trade value is lower because he can be a free agent after the season, so conceivably could leave if he's intent on doing so like Kirk Cousins (albeit it's possible the team could use the franchise tag and pay him even more).

There's also a PR component to all of this, as I think the Raiders would need to get enough of a return so that they could save face with their fans.

The bottom line is that when and if Mack is traded, I think it will be for less than most fans expect.

Stampede Blue now says Colts have inquired about Mack People are saying the Raiders want a number one and another high pick or young player. If true, do it.

1st rounder and Basham :D

that was 27 years ago

Seymor was done when he was traded. Still a cheater, but he wasn't the star with the Cheatriots

A second and a years supply of tide for washing uniforms

I'd do a first as long as we agree to terms on a contract extension. And no three year bullshit. At least 4, preferably 5.

Vet maximum

This isn't the NBA, there are no maximums.

@DanLeach1971
Just heard from a Metro Detroit limo driver that he just picked up Raiders LB Khalil Mack and he is going to meet with #Lions GM Bob Quinn Monday. Stay tuned.......

Has this become a meme or something? If he leaves, he's not coming to Indy anyway, so who cares?

Surely you are not THAT dumb!

Why Mack may come at a cheaper price than you'd expect:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ck-this-season

The NBA has max contracts, the NFL does not.

That article summarizes why teams aren't going to pay for him in all likelihood. He's a free agent after the season, so if the Raiders really don't want him, they'll let him go (at which point Ballard should have a fueled up private jet with a nonstop course to Indy parked in front of Mack), but teams aren't willing to pay the price Oakland will want because the 2019 class is loaded at DL. The Colts may have 3 top 50 picks in next year's draft, and it's conceivable that they could use them all on DL and get good value.

I guess you ARE that dumb after all.